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Tonbridge, Code 82-Parked after expiry of paid for time, Kinnings Row Car Park
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Hi All, hoping you can help.

I received a PCN (image below) for parking as per the topic.
Parking at this car park starts at 08:00, I 'purchased' a free 30 minute ticket at 00:36 (as the ticket does not start until 08:00, so expiry on ticket is 08:30).
The PCN states "Observed From 08:36 to 08:40" and the issuing time of the ticket was "Time: 08:40"


Based on my query and the answers in this thread in the Fire Pit (https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/what-is-the-legalenforceable-timing-for-the-10-minute-grace-period-10th-minute-o/) I challenged the PCN on the basis that it was issued 1 minute too early but it was rejected (second & third images below).


Just wondered if this is worth pursuing with a formal challenge etc.?


Thank you all!


PCN:




Challenge Rejection:



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Re: Tonbridge, Code 82-Parked after expiry of paid for time, Kinnings Row Car Park
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That's one of the most ridiculous things we've seen - that time to print and serve is an extra minute....

You are right - the PCN could not have been issued until its time stated 08:41.

We had a recent discussion revisiting this.

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/what-is-the-legalenforceable-timing-for-the-10-minute-grace-period-10th-minute-o/

Are you the keeper and is the logbook up to date with correct address. 
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Thanks @stamfordman. (It was me that started the thread you linked, it seemed split as to which was right - 08:40 or 08:41, so I put the challenge in)

Yes I am the keeper and the logbook is up to date.
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Re: What is the legal/enforceable timing for the 10 minute grace period-10th minute or 11th minute?
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Quote from: Martyn21uk on March 02, 2026, 03:29:40 pm
Surely this is quite simple.
If a paid for ticket runs until 08:30.  This means it is valid until 08:30:59.  As this is still 08:30.  Therefore the 10 minutes can only start at 08:31:00.  Which in turn means it will run until 08:40:59 and the 10 minutes will be up at 08:41:00.  Therefore this is the earliest a ticket can be given.

Yes I thought so too but it has sparked some debate as you can see from the posts.
I posted my PCN based on responses here:
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tonbridge-code-82-parked-after-expiry-of-paid-for-time-kinnings-row-car-park/
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