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Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
« on: September 21, 2024, 09:44:55 am »
Posting on behalf of my uncle.

Reg: YM67XGV

Ticket 1:
- 04/09/2024 8:34
- WA90977945

Ticket 2:
- 05/09/2024 8:23
- WA90985976

Ticket 3:
- 09/09/2024 8:28
- WA9101400A

Ticket 4:
- 10/09/2024 8:29
- WA91019692

He received 4 of these tickets - by the time he received the first, the other 3 were already on their way.

Received tickets due to turning right into chestnut grove road during prohibited hours.

This is a relatively new restriction - he does this route for school pick-up (he assists with dropping and collecting disabled children to and from school and has done so for years) so he only received the penalties with school starting.

Now that he has received them, he does say the sign is visible (it is not available on google maps yet).

Does he have any grounds?

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Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2024, 10:08:33 am »
Also I've just noticed when I go to challenge the PCN, on the website it says "You cannot currently challenge the PCN" though it does allow me to go on and challenge it anyways.

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Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2024, 10:28:17 am »
Our usual approach if there is no way to challenge a sequence of PCNs like this is to pay the first and ask for discretion on others incurred before the first was received. Some councils play ball on this although may not cancel all.

Here are first two - I can't see any signage but this is a no right turn not a zone entrance.

Order:
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4556255

It's a timed ban:
(a) no person shall cause or permit any motor vehicle proceeding in Chestnut Grove to turn right into Boundaries Road between 7am and 9am and between 3pm and 6pm on Mondays to Fridays inclusive;

Can you take pics of sign|(s) and any advance signs.


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Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2024, 10:46:39 am »
+1
to SFM's response.
Main thing is not to be confrontational in your reps. Make sure you mention the public-spirited nature of the journeys that gave rise to the PCNs (2.3. & 4), also mentioning you accept a mistake was inadvertantly made, but you weren't aware of the offence until the first PCN arrived, by which time a further four had been committed. Point out that PCN 1 has been paid, as you accept your error.
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Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2024, 05:21:11 pm »
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Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2024, 08:31:58 pm »
I challenged on behalf of my uncle, using my name.

Apparently they sent me an email which I have now found in spam but no physical letters.

The email said as I am not the registered keeper, I need to tell the registered keeper to contact them within 14 days of receiving the letter to give authority to myself to challenge the PCNs.

Unfortunately they sent that on 14/10/24 and I only know now because my uncle has received the charge certificates.

What should I do now?
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Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2024, 12:05:52 pm »
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Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2024, 02:49:38 pm »
I'm going to send them the authorisation letter they requested but also file a TE9 form as I technically did not receive a formal rejection for the challenges.

Is that the correct route?
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Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2024, 11:03:34 am »
I'm still waiting for the order for recovery. Is there a quicker way to check it has been filed aside from calling (can never get through).
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Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2024, 12:10:52 pm »
Quote from: george74 on November 30, 2024, 11:03:34 am
I'm still waiting for the order for recovery. Is there a quicker way to check it has been filed aside from calling (can never get through).
Yes, there is, (or should be).

The council web page stating the amount owing will increase by £10 when the debt is registered. The £10 is the TEC registration fee.
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