Author Topic: Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings of a bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17  (Read 11903 times)

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I think they must mean this one for permit holders on street

« Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:58:24 am by tommytbone »

Images OK for me.

Frankly, whilst the contravention is really trivial, the fact is you are not fully in the bay, and if you take them to London Tribunals you may well not win on the trivial aspect, because adjudicators can only take matters of law into consideration. You have to risk the full PCN penalty if you take them there.

Yeah, i agree. I've got a week or so to consider next steps. I appreciate your input here!

To be expected however, your reps give you a template for any appeal.

Their reference to 'traffic signs' is total nonsense.

The sign is prescribed under Schedule 4 of these regs: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/introduction

SCHEDULE 4
Upright signs that control waiting, loading and parking along a road


Road, road, road. They do NOT convey anything off-street unless this is brought to motorists' attention while parking on the land.

IMO, appeal.

While waiting, pl post your permit.

Yeah, there are no other signs apart from the on street ones for permit holders. But i think they are saying it's all taken care of through that - which as you point out is rubbish.

I don't have a permit apart from a digital receipt from Ringo who manage the permits. It's active for the area Wood Street North, CPZ zones(70029) - but cant find the terms etc apart from the info @Stamdfordman found earlier in the thread -
LONDON BOROUGH OF WALTHAM FOREST INTRODUCTION OF ENFORCEMENT OF PARKING PLACES AND WAITING AND LOADING RESTRICTIONS IN CERTAIN HOUSING ESTATE ROADS, AREAS, OR L
thegazette.co.uk

I wonder if that helps?

A case yesterday where the adjudicator was alert to lack of off-street signage.

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Case reference   2250668310
Appellant   Mauricio Soffiati
Authority   London Borough of Tower Hamlets
VRM   FR19YUE
PCN Details
PCN   TT60119828
Contravention date   30 Sep 2025
Contravention time   10:27:30
Contravention location   Ocean North Estate X213
Penalty amount   GBP 160.00
Contravention   Parked in a restricted area in a car park
Referral date   -
Decision Date   15 Apr 2026
Adjudicator   Mackenzie Robinson
Appeal decision   Appeal allowed
Direction   
cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons   
Mr Soffiati parked his vehicle on double yellow lines with his blue badge and clock on display. It seems clear that he thought he was parking on a restricted street, using the exemption provided by his blue badge.
The authority contests the appeal on the basis that the area is part of a car park, and the rules of the car park apply even to the double yellow lines. It maintains that display of a blue badge would provide no exemption, because blue badge holders within the car park should park in the designated disabled bays.
I have seen little evidence that this road is part of a car park. I have seen no official plan of the area, or the signage which would normally accompany a car park. The photographs taken by the civil enforcement officer appear to show an ordinary road with double yellow lines combined with no car parking signs in sight.
Assuming that the authority is correct, and this area is part of a car park, the question is whether that was adequately brought to the attention of the driver, so that he ought to have realised the display of his blue badge would provide no exemption from the double yellow lines. Since I have seen no indication of the rules for parking in the area, such as a sign setting out the rules for parking, I do not find that Mr Soffiatt was given adequate information. In those circumstances, no contravention occurred.
This appeal is allowed.