Author Topic: Waltham Forest – 34J – Lea Bridge Road (A) – being in a bus lane  (Read 80 times)

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Hi all,
I received the attached PCN for entering the bus lane on Lea Bridge Road at 18:01 on 25/06/2026.
I’ve viewed the footage and it appears I was only in the bus lane very briefly. I’ve also been back to the location and taken photos of the signage. There appear to be a couple of signs, so I’m not sure I have much of a case on signage.

The only possible grounds I can think of are de minimis, depending on the distance/time shown in the video, or whether there are any technical issues with the wording of the PCN, Traffic Order, or the approved camera used.

I’d really appreciate any thoughts on whether there is anything worth challenging here or whether I should just pay the discount.

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Video shows you as already in the bus lane when you appear in the video, and going quite a bit faster than the traffic in the traffic lane. The length it shows you in the bus lane in the video is more than sufficient for a PCN, I don't think de minimis would cut it at London Tribunals, frankly.

Wait a bit to see what others may suggest.

I won't comment on the dangerous driving (undertaking at a speed, passing that van on a bus lane when approaching a traffic light), that would be material for The Flame Pit section.

Regarding the PCN.

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I saw the images provided, the PCN and the photo/video evidence.

The evidence provided by the authority (photos and the video) do not show any upright 958 warning sign or 959B signage allegedly passed and in place.

I believe the served PCN omits some of the statutory grounds of appeal outlined in Regulation 5(4) of The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022.

Not an expert here, just my point of view as an amateur, so better wait for further replies from the senior members of this forum.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2026, 08:57:10 pm by AmikoFrizz »

It's a bus lane PCN under the LLA Act 1996, so different to the other parking and traffic Acts. For a start, if payment or a challenge are not received within the allowed period, an Enforcement Notice is sent out. Only at that point can a formal representation be submitted.


It's a bus lane PCN under the LLA Act 1996, so different to the other parking and traffic Acts. For a start, if payment or a challenge are not received within the allowed period, an Enforcement Notice is sent out. Only at that point can a formal representation be submitted.

It's a bus lane PCN under the LLA Act 1996, so different to the other parking and traffic Acts. For a start, if payment or a challenge are not received within the allowed period, an Enforcement Notice is sent out. Only at that point can a formal representation be submitted.



Thank you. I double checked on LLA Act 1996 and the grounds are indeed in order. Learning every day on this forum.

I imagine that reporting the lack - on photo/video evidence - of any upright 958 warning sign or 959B signage allegedly passed and in place, won't be considered at all by the Council at both informal and formal representation stages. As usual.

Do not pay this. I will PM you. They NEVER attend hearings so in this law they lose.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2026, 11:18:52 pm by Hippocrates »
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« Last Edit: July 14, 2026, 10:46:01 pm by Hippocrates »
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"