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Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« on: October 01, 2024, 11:23:00 am »
Hi, im looking for advice on possibly challenging these 2 fines. One on way to hotel for visit to chessington world of adventures and one for return home the next day.

We were fully aware of the ulez charges in that area, however, we didnt chose not to pay. My partner had gone online to get exemption as she is a blue badge holder. She thought she had sorted it and we went on our trip only for the first pcn to arrive on our doorstep a few days later. I had her go through her emails etc and we found that she had in fact completed an exemption for our car,  only problem is, it was for scotland and not london ulez 🤦.

In hindsight i should have checked it over myself before we left but as she said it was done i didnt.

Any help or advice greatly received.

https://imgur.com/a/kCPm2Dw

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I dont think ive done pics properly, will try update once home from work this evening.
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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2024, 12:06:44 pm »
A BB holder can nominate a car as exempt for the Congestion Charge Zone. First you need to register an account and pay a fee.

However ULEZ exemptions follow the car and not a Blue Badge.
Is the car in the "Disabled" taxation class? Should be in the details on the V5c registration doc.
Or has it been modified to be wheelchair accessible?

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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2024, 12:31:41 pm »
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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2024, 01:00:06 pm »
No, the car is neither in the tax class or modified.
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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2024, 01:24:00 pm »
I wonder if it might be worth chancing our luck with a letter, something like the one in this thread:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tfl-ulez-pcn-a4-great-west-road-wandsworth-road/15/
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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2024, 02:15:26 pm »
Quote from: Jock on October 01, 2024, 01:24:00 pm
I wonder if it might be worth chancing our luck with a letter, something like the one in this thread:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tfl-ulez-pcn-a4-great-west-road-wandsworth-road/15/
We normally always advise OPs to send in some representations, but don't expect them to roll-over and cancel. I would emphasise that you are very willing to pay the unpaid ULEZ charges, and accept the error is yours.
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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2024, 04:54:49 pm »
Yes, very heavily laid on grovelling pretty much goes unsaid  ;D

I just thought it was worth an ask on here as i had some very good advice on pepipoo some years ago regarding cameras in the A9 in scotland. Safe to say the unsigned route is the correct action as has been tested twice now.

Do you folks have a donation page at all, id like to help keep the lights on so to speak, or buy a few coffees/beers

Many thanks for your time.

If i draw something up, would you mind me posting it here first to he checked over before i send?
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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2024, 05:21:15 pm »
If your car is registered in Scotland. You can choose to ignore them.

TfL would send Charge Certifcate to your home address but they cannot register the debt with Traffic Enforcement Centre as it is outside the Jurisdiction of England and Wales.

Also they cannot send the Bailiffs up to Scotland.
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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2024, 07:56:44 pm »
Car is indeed registered to our home address in northern scotland. Thats interesting, never thought about the effect of seperate parliaments and jurisdiction.

Do you, or anyone else,  have any more information on that at all?

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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2024, 08:47:39 pm »
The best way is to send a representation saying you entered the wrong exemption registration. The Scottish's LEZ allows Blue Badge holder to be add onto the exemption registration free of charge but tfl's ULEZ charges admin fee for the exemption.
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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2024, 08:53:04 am »
So as i have it i have 2 choices:

1. Ignore it completely.

2. Write a begging letter to try get fines quashed.

If i write to them, then they will have an admission, would that not leave me open to debt recovery agencies? Or if they continue would it still be possible to revert to option 1?

Really, it seems like ignoring it altogether is the best and easiest option then no?
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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2024, 02:14:40 pm »
Quote from: Daim456 on October 01, 2024, 08:47:39 pm
The best way is to send a representation saying you entered the wrong exemption registration. The Scottish's LEZ allows Blue Badge holder to be add onto the exemption registration free of charge but tfl's ULEZ charges admin fee for the exemption.

Holding a Blue Badge does not exempt a vehicle from the emissions standards of the London ULEZ (Ultra Low Emissions Zone). The car has to be emissions compliant or it has to be registered with the DVLA in the "Disabled" or the "Disabled Passenger Vehicle" VED classes. The Disabled VED exemptions are a transition (sunset) measure that expire in October 2027.

A BB holder can register for an account and pay a registration fee on the TFL site and then nominate a vehicle for exemption from the Congestion Charge scheme that applies within central London. This is an entirely separate scheme that incurs a separate charge from the ULEZ.

A humble, contrite, polite and apologetic begging letter asking TFL to use their discretion to cancel is your best bet. Please post up a draft for scrutiny before you actually submit it.
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Re: Ulez pcn, tfl, leatherhead road, chessington
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2024, 08:16:36 am »
Quote from: Enceladus on October 03, 2024, 02:14:40 pm
Quote from: Daim456 on October 01, 2024, 08:47:39 pm
The best way is to send a representation saying you entered the wrong exemption registration. The Scottish's LEZ allows Blue Badge holder to be add onto the exemption registration free of charge but tfl's ULEZ charges admin fee for the exemption.

Thanks for the reply. I believe Daim456 was speaking in relation to the Scottish ulez rules.

So, given that our car is registered in scotland, is simply ignoring charges a viable option? Or will i have to send reply?
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