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Can anyone tell me what the default position is regarding parking with two wheels on the kerb?

Background:
For many years most people in our street have been parking outside their own houses with two wheels on the pavement, a few with four wheels on the pavement where it is wide enough.  Say five years ago the local Council painted some lines pn the pavement denoting parking spaces, these are now very faded; no one took any notice and just carried on parking where they always had.

Well more recently I noticed some blue signs near the ends of the road suggesting it was ok to park with two wheels on the pavement.  All of these signs have now gone.

Since then a number of the neighbours have received parking tickets for parking with two wheels on the kerb but not within the aforementioned white lines.

I thought it was fine to park with two wheels on the kerb as long as it didn't block the pavement.
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Where are you? It's not allowed in London (for a long time), and recently banned in Scotland.
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Off-carriageway parking has been banned in London since 1974 except where exempted/permitted. 

Legislation:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1974/24/section/15

This section is for live PCNs so if you want help with one, post it.
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The Council needs to officially create a pavement parking restriction (or if it's in London/Scotland, officially remove the default one), and they also need to install and maintain signage and road markings that adequately conveys the official restriction to the motorist.

You can fight and win PCNs if the council messes up either the documentation or signage part, and also (briefly) if there's a reasonable expectation of non-enforcement.
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Quote from: RichardW on December 13, 2025, 06:21:08 pm
Where are you? It's not allowed in London (for a long time), and recently banned in Scotland.
In Havering so I guess that, for the moment at least, is part of Greater London.
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it would all depend on what the TMO says. clearly there was one (or should have been) as bays and signs were placed. if there has been a change ie the removal of the exemption to allow pavement parking,  this should have been conveyed to motorists by the way of signage placed at the location.
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Quote from: mickR on December 14, 2025, 07:52:34 pm
it would all depend on what the TMO says. clearly there was one (or should have been) as bays and signs were placed. if there has been a change ie the removal of the exemption to allow pavement parking,  this should have been conveyed to motorists by the way of signage placed at the location.

Havering Council usually refuse to release details of TMOs, I have previous experience of this.  As this is in Greater London I guess they would not need a TMO as, I am now aware, the default is that pavement parking is not allowed.  Who knew!
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Havering has taken its traffic order map off Traffweb where we could see them.

Who knew? We did and I think most drivers in London know about the off-carriageway ban.
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Quote from: stamfordman on December 14, 2025, 09:17:27 pm
Havering has taken its traffic order map off Traffweb where we could see them.

Who knew? We did and I think most drivers in London know about the off-carriageway ban.
Sorry but beg to differ, I'm afraid, out here in the Essex part of Greater London people have been parking partially on the pavement in unmarked spaces for years.  There are many villages where if everyone started parking four wheels on the road no traffic would get through.

What about where people park two wheels on the verge, how are councils going to paint white lines on the grass.
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Yes we know there is longstanding such parking that hasn't been enforced in parts of outer London but authorities are tending to regulate their streets more now.

I expect many taking advantage of lack of enforcement do know not to do it in other parts of London. After all this dates back to 1974 and has been passed down through possibly two generations.
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