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Surely it's not a bus lane contravention: Using a route restricted to ......

But the issue is they are comparing two PCNs..

No it's not. The point I'm trying to make is that you have posted part of a 'Notice of Rejection' so we don't know when this was issued or what it says about appealing or the legislation under which it was issued and therefore what it should state or whether you've missed this boat......

So, post the full notice and let's see where you are.

Is it the case that the vehicle hirer in the current case is the same person or entity to whom liability was recently transferred for PCNs CU67189608 & CU67327869?

For that matter is the same vehicle involved?

As I understand you the hire company maintains two discrete hire agreements in respect of any given hire of one of your vehicles? Upon receipt of a PCN one or the other agrrement will be sent with representations to the Enforcement Authority depending on the legislation that the PCN is issued under? The hire agreements will have differing rental periods?

However the bottom line is that you, the hirer, have a Notice of Rejection in respect of a PCN that the hire company received. This should be a London Locsl Authorities and Transport for London PCN.

The options on the table are pay-up or appeal to the Adjudicator. The Adjudicator can decide if the Hire Agreement that you provided to Camden is valid or not. You'll be in for the £130 penalty if you lose.

I would register an appeal. State that you rely on your representations and that further evidence may follow. Ask for a personal hearing, you can vary this to a telephone hearing later. Use the time to research the status of the hire agreements.

Is it the case that the vehicle hirer in the current case is the same person or entity to whom liability was recently transferred for PCNs CU67189608 & CU67327869?

For that matter is the same vehicle involved?

As I understand you the hire company maintains two discrete hire agreements in respect of any given hire of one of your vehicles? Upon receipt of a PCN one or the other agrrement will be sent with representations to the Enforcement Authority depending on the legislation that the PCN is issued under? The hire agreements will have differing rental periods?

However the bottom line is that you, the hirer, have a Notice of Rejection in respect of a PCN that the hire company received. This should be a London Locsl Authorities and Transport for London PCN.  I plan to appeal to tribunal as i still have 20 days to do so.  PS- the driver paid £65 already - can still file tribunal case?


The options on the table are pay-up or appeal to the Adjudicator. The Adjudicator can decide if the Hire Agreement that you provided to Camden is valid or not. You'll be in for the £130 penalty if you lose.

I would register an appeal. State that you rely on your representations and that further evidence may follow. Ask for a personal hearing, you can vary this to a telephone hearing later. Use the time to research the status of the hire agreements.

- Yes same vehicle and same person. Correct, we maintain two hire agreements, and yes they will have different return dates.  The PCN was from Local Authority CAmden Council - But can the adjudicator rely on previous PCNs? is it not the case that if the PCN is paid then the matter is closed?  How far back can the council compare PCNs?  is it not just the case of council treating each case on its own merit?  But if i pay doesn't it mean everytime i send a hire agreement they will compare with previous PCN, have they now invalidated our hire agreements going forward - despite us having agreement with hirer

Not sure where this case has got to in the last couple of months, but this recent blog post by Mr Mustard seems relevant:

https://lbbspending.blogspot.com/2024/12/being-cute-turns-expensive.html