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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
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As you're at Notice to Owner stage, the discount has gone, so submit your original reps, but this time updated to reflect what they said in their response to the informal reps. They may reoffer the discount in their response, but if they don't it's then a total no-brainer to register an appeal with London Tribunals.

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
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Just received a notice of rejection from TH. Sadly, they showed no discretion and did not cancel the PCN. Additionally, they made baseless accusations of the badge being misused by myself even though the blue badge was with me!

Any help would be appreciated on whether I should progress with adjudication as they’ve reoffered the discount. Thanks

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Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
« Reply #17 on: »
As you're at Notice to Owner stage, the discount has gone, so submit your original reps, but this time updated to reflect what they said in their response to the informal reps. They may reoffer the discount in their response, but if they don't it's then a total no-brainer to register an appeal with London Tribunals.

They’ve reoffered the discount.

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
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If someone could provide some input it would be appreciated

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
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Please post their letter of rejection to the NtO
Their letter seems to be tosh on the subject of the Blue Badge. A Blue Badge holder may not be able to drive, but provided the car was used to convey the BB holder to the parking location, then that is OK. If you can explain more about this, then it might be worth taking them to London Tribunals, otherwise pay the discount. They are correct re the clock, I think.

My elderly mother held a BB and I used to use it when we took her out and parked, then returned to the car and took her home. This is entirely lawful.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2025, 10:03:44 am by Incandescent »

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
« Reply #20 on: »
Please post their letter of rejection to the NtO
Their letter seems to be tosh on the subject of the Blue Badge. A Blue Badge holder may not be able to drive, but provided the car was used to convey the BB holder to the parking location, then that is OK. If you can explain more about this, then it might be worth taking them to London Tribunals, otherwise pay the discount. They are correct re the clock, I think.

My elderly mother held a BB and I used to use it when we took her out and parked, then returned to the car and took her home. This is entirely lawful.

What information do you require? I’m in the same situation as yourself. My elderly mother is the blue badge holder. She lives with us and I’m her carer. I only make use of the badge when she is with me.

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
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Where are your reps?

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
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Here’s my reps for the nto

I parked at approximately [time] in a bay governed by the sign shown in the attached image. During that time, the bay permitted Blue Badge holders to park without time restriction (within the 07:00–19:00 pay and display/business permit hours), which I correctly interpreted, so I displayed my valid Blue Badge.

However, after 19:00, the bay becomes restricted as a single yellow line, and Blue Badge holders may only park for up to 3 hours provided a parking clock is also displayed. I was unaware of this transition. As a result, while my badge was clearly displayed, I did not display the clock, not realising the restriction had changed.

I returned to my car at 20:00 to find the PCN issued at 19:27 — just 27 minutes after the restriction changed, and well within the allowed 3-hour Blue Badge exemption.



Grounds for Challenge



1. Signage is Confusing and Inadequate

The signage (see photo) is not sufficiently clear about the change in restrictions after 19:00. It primarily highlights pay-by-phone and permit holder regulations, with a small yellow sign above referring to Mon–Sat “Midnight–7am, 7pm–Midnight” restrictions.

The bay is physically marked as a parking bay — yet after 19:00 it reverts to single yellow line restrictions. A driver seeing a parking bay with signs referencing parking and pay-by-phone would not expect a sudden switch to a yellow-line rule after 7pm. This is ambiguous and fails to adequately convey the transition in restriction type.

This contravenes Regulation 18 of The Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996, which states:

“The order-making authority shall take such steps as are necessary to secure adequate information as to the effect of the order is made available to persons using the road.”

As established in Camden v. The Parking Adjudicator (Moses LJ), signage must clearly convey the operational rules to the reasonable driver. In this case, it does not.



2. Badge Was Valid, and Contravention Was Technical and Non-Prejudicial

Under the Blue Badge Scheme Guidance (DfT, 2011), badge holders may park on single yellow lines for up to 3 hours if no obstruction is caused and the badge and time clock are displayed. I fully complied with the spirit and function of this exemption — I was parked for less than 3 hours, caused no obstruction, and displayed my valid badge.

My sole omission was not displaying the clock — a technical oversight, made due to the misleading signage and misunderstanding of the restriction switch. There was no attempt to evade restrictions or overstay.

Adjudicators have accepted in many similar cases — such as Case 2110072817 (PATAS) — that minor omissions (like not displaying the clock where the badge is shown and no overstay has occurred) can render enforcement disproportionate, especially where no public interest is served by penalising the motorist.



3. Procedural Impropriety – Failure to Consider Representations

My initial informal representations were rejected with a template response that failed to address the specific grounds I raised. This breaches Paragraph 85 of the Traffic Management Act 2004 Operational Guidance, which requires that authorities:

“give proper consideration to the representations and respond to the motorist’s points.”

This amounts to a procedural impropriety, which is grounds for cancellation.



4. Proportionality

The PCN does not serve a deterrent or regulatory function in this case. The badge was valid. The duration was lawful. The mistake — not displaying the clock — did not result in overstay or abuse of the scheme.

It is disproportionate to penalise a disabled badge holder for a technical oversight caused by unclear signage.



Conclusion

I respectfully request the cancellation of this PCN on the following grounds:
   •   The signage was confusing and failed to convey the change in restriction clearly.
   •   I was parked legally under Blue Badge rules but inadvertently omitted the clock — a technical, not substantive, contravention.
   •   No overstay occurred.
   •   The council failed to properly consider my initial informal appeal.
   •   Enforcement in this case is disproportionate and contrary to the intent of the Blue Badge Scheme.

If this appeal is rejected, I request a full and reasoned response to each point raised and intend to take the matter to the independent adjudicator if necessary.

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
« Reply #23 on: »
The problem with your reps is you continually refer to "my valid Blue Badge", "my badge" etc. But it's not your BB it is your mothers, so that made them accuse you of BB misuse. You should have told them the full story.

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
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The problem with your reps is you continually refer to "my valid Blue Badge", "my badge" etc. But it's not your BB it is your mothers, so that made them accuse you of BB misuse. You should have told them the full story.

Agreed. The pitfalls of using AI! However, I’m sure I edited it before submitting. Is there any way I can get ahold of my reps from TH now?
« Last Edit: July 01, 2025, 09:41:43 pm by Jamran »

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
« Reply #25 on: »
This doesn't change the facts. You were parked where and when you were not entitled.

Whether the badge was being used improperly is not the issue. You were obliged to display the clock. IMO, you would have been in a better, but not necessarily winning, position had you displayed the clock and set it for the quarter-hour when you parked and then pleaded confusion as to when it should have been set. But you didn't.

Their NOR doesn't contain any silver bullet errors IMO.

Appealing and therefore rejecting the discount would be a gamble IMO. Yes, it's possible that the restricted hours are incorrect, but how would establish this before the discount expires?

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
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This doesn't change the facts. You were parked where and when you were not entitled.

Whether the badge was being used improperly is not the issue. You were obliged to display the clock. IMO, you would have been in a better, but not necessarily winning, position had you displayed the clock and set it for the quarter-hour when you parked and then pleaded confusion as to when it should have been set. But you didn't.

Their NOR doesn't contain any silver bullet errors IMO.

Appealing and therefore rejecting the discount would be a gamble IMO. Yes, it's possible that the restricted hours are incorrect, but how would establish this before the discount expires?

Is there any grounds with the signage being confusing? Also, the council failed to apply any discretion for a vehicle with a disabled blue badge holder? They don’t really address these points I raised in their NOJ.

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c78f895e5274a0ebfec719b/traffic-signs-manual-chapter-03.pdf

See p171 which gives examples of the form of traffic signs to be used where waiting restrictions and parking apply in the same length of street. IMO, the sign which is shown in GSV is an exemplar. IMO, the ad hoc 'market day' only sign above would not persuade an adjudicator that the signage of yellow line and traffic sign was confusing.

As regards discretion, this is a matter for the council only. They've decided not to exercise in your favour which is their choice. An adjudicator may not interfere with their decision.

Wait for others who might have other more prospectively positive points.

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
« Reply #28 on: »
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c78f895e5274a0ebfec719b/traffic-signs-manual-chapter-03.pdf

See p171 which gives examples of the form of traffic signs to be used where waiting restrictions and parking apply in the same length of street. IMO, the sign which is shown in GSV is an exemplar. IMO, the ad hoc 'market day' only sign above would not persuade an adjudicator that the signage of yellow line and traffic sign was confusing.

As regards discretion, this is a matter for the council only. They've decided not to exercise in your favour which is their choice. An adjudicator may not interfere with their decision.

Wait for others who might have other more prospectively positive points.

One may argue that Permit/p&d parking in peak times then no parking at all in off peaks is arguably far from the norm as well as confusing to the average person.

Apart from there I’ve never come across such a restriction.

With regards to their refusal for discretion, I’m sure their own cancellation policy states that discretion be allowed to blue badge holders? I’ll try dig it up

Re: Tower Hamlets PCN Brady St code 01
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Found one document regarding cancellation of PCN for blue badge holders

https://democracy.towerhamlets.gov.uk/documents/s89346/5.1%20CPZ%20Parking%20Policy%20Review.pdf#:~:text=3%20There%20are%20restrictions%20that%20Blue%20Badge,will%20be%20liable%20for%20Penalty%20Charge%20Notices.&text=4%20Currently%2C%20Tower%20Hamlets'%20policy%20requires%20the,Badge%20but%20that%20is%20still%20in%20contravention.

https://www.scribd.com/document/553208338/Tower-Hamlets-Council-Policy-Cancellation-of-PCNs

Page 6 of this link states the follliwing:

“When in a place that requires a permit, scratchcard, pay & display ticket, Disabled Person's Badge or any other item to be displayed in the vehicle, that item must be displayed so that all details are clearly visible. If a CEO cannot see all the details then a PCN may be issued. It is not a defence against a PCN simply to possess an item. If the item can be produced with the representations, however, and was valid at the time of the contravention then the Council will consider using its discretion to cancel the PCN. In general, discretion will only be applied once.

This policy does not apply to multi-vehicle permits or Disabled Person's Badges if they are not visible in the vehicle as they could be in use elsewhere.”