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Date of PCN - 22/06/2026
Date of contravention - 04/06/2026
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I realised by the time i reached the zebra crossing (short way in) stopped and reversed back out. This part has been removed from the clip.

does the date of offence (04/06/2026) being more than 14 days (18/06/2026) make the PCN invalid ?
« Last Edit: June 24, 2026, 07:34:19 pm by Movieman9000 »

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The LLA & TfL Act 2003 (see your PCN), allows 28 days to send out a PCN.

Video shows that you approached the signs head-on, so they would have been visible to you on approach. Any reason for ignoring them ?

Yeah the signs are there for sure, it clicked about a second later after i had gone through what the situation was.

By then i had driven through but went no further than the zebra crossing (this part has been cut from the video)


Not much we can recommend for this PCN, but there could be a 'technical' appeal based on the PCN or TH web pages related to it. Hippocrates is our resident expert on these and has won appeals at London Tribunals on them, but of course you must be willing to risk the full PCN penalty; no discount option there

What do you think of the below i got from google

Yes, you can absolutely appeal this, and you have strong legal grounds to do so.

Since you acknowledge the signage was clear, your appeal will rely on a legal argument called ***de minimis non curat lex*** (the law does not care about trivial matters), combined with **lack of full video evidence**.

Here is how you structure your representation to Tower Hamlets Council:

### 1. The "De Minimis" Argument (Trivial Breach)


Crossing the line by only 20 meters before immediately stopping means no actual contravention occurred in a meaningful sense. You did not use the restricted route to gain an unfair advantage, bypass traffic, or compromise safety.

### 2. Failure to Show the Full Incident / incompelte evidence


A Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) for a moving traffic restriction must show a complete action. If the council's footage cuts off while your brake lights are on and fails to show you reversing, **their evidence is incomplete**. They cannot prove you proceeded down the restricted route.

request the full video footage from them, if they fail to provide you have a strong case to have the PCN dismissed
« Last Edit: June 26, 2026, 11:59:08 am by Movieman9000 »

Yes, those points can be made, but will they result in a win at London Tribunals ? I think not. The council will, of course reject them, because they keep the money if they reject the reps and re-offer the discount, and they know that >95% of people then do so, to get the discount.

Hold fire.
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Yes, those points can be made, but will they result in a win at London Tribunals ? I think not. The council will, of course reject them, because they keep the money if they reject the reps and re-offer the discount, and they know that >95% of people then do so, to get the discount.
would have thought, at least been it when a human views it , they will see the full picture .

For me the fact they cut if off when I stopped and didn't show the reversing back the way I came  indicates they know they can't show that otherwise the case falls apart by itself.

It's £240 as well I think if I go to tribunal and lose as they say they'll increase it by 50% (discount £80, normal fee £160)

Have you heard from Hippocrates yet ? If not, as he said, hold fire for a bit as he is our "technical" appeal expert, and these do win appeals at LT.

I haven't had a reply, i didn't know he was the Guru :(

i have already appealed and i went with the below


- I admited i entered the junction (i think this is obvious)

- i went along the lines of the contravention didn't occur as i didn't proceed along the route. 

- i requested the full CCTV footage including showing me reversing out (break lights come on
11m in, full stop at 20m). i reversed out the way i came no vehicles or people were around me.

- Di minimis

33H says - Using a route restricted to certain vehicles. Contravention Code 33These contraventions relate to using routes restricted to certain vehicles like cycles. The restrictions are shown on signs with white diagrams on blue backgrounds.

Suffixes:
33b) buses only
33c) buses and cycles only
33e) buses, cycles and taxis only
33f) buses and taxis only
33g) local buses only
33h) local buses and cycles only
33i) local buses, cycles and taxis only
33k) local buses and taxis only
33s) tramcars and buses only
33q) tramcars and local buses only
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What do you think of the below i got from google

Send it back to it!

You passed the signs, that's it. Whether you 'only' went a little further and reversed out is mitigation, NOT a statutory defence, sorry. 

Let's hope a technical defence emerges.

What do you think of the below i got from google

Send it back to it!

You passed the signs, that's it. Whether you 'only' went a little further and reversed out is mitigation, NOT a statutory defence, sorry. 

Let's hope a technical defence emerges.
Will the Hippocrates Cavalry come to the rescue !! (or maybe they are Dragoons)

I been busy of late. Extra reps. can always be added. Website only has general box and my conflation argument. Sorry: 6 cases tomorrow so back after them.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2026, 11:02:45 pm by Hippocrates »
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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I been busy of late. Extra reps. can always be added. Website only has general box and my conflation argument. Sorry: 6 cases tomorrow so back after them.
Thank you.


What do you think of the below i got from google

Send it back to it!

You passed the signs, that's it. Whether you 'only' went a little further and reversed out is mitigation, NOT a statutory defence, sorry. 

Let's hope a technical defence emerges.

i don't know if these help, my case is 20m total entry, started breaking at 11m reason - i had to check mirrors first before breaking

Case 1: Avis Rent A Car v London Borough of Camden (Case Ref: 2120038831)The Focus: Minimal penetration and immediate correction.The Facts: The vehicle turned into a restricted bus lane, immediately braked, and safely reversed out within 3 seconds. The council argued that crossing the threshold line completed the contravention.

The Adjudicator's Ruling: Appeal Allowed. The adjudicator formally recorded:"The CCTV footage shows the vehicle crossed the threshold line but immediately stopped and reversed out of the restriction. The entire episode lasted no more than a few seconds. I am satisfied that this was a momentary error, immediately corrected, and did not constitute 'using' the bus lane. The matter falls within the principle of de minimis non curat lex."

Case 2: Dr. S v London Borough of Hackney (Case Ref: 219036728A)The Focus: Distance penetrated vs. intent to comply.

The Facts: A motorist crossed into a Code 33 pedestrian zone by roughly half a car length before spotting the signs, stopping, and immediately reversing straight back onto the main road.

The Adjudicator's Ruling: Appeal Allowed.
The adjudicator noted that the absolute nature of moving traffic offenses must be balanced against reality:"While the council's camera technically records a crossing of the restriction line, the footage shows the driver stopped almost immediately upon passing the signs and reversed out safely. Enforcing a financial penalty where a driver actively takes instant, safe corrective action to comply with a restriction would be wholly disproportionate. The contravention did not occur in any meaningful sense."

Case 3: M v Transport for London (Case Ref: 2210041275)The Focus: The definition of "entering" a restricted route.

The Facts: The appellant’s car entered a restricted route junction due to a sudden lane merge. The driver immediately realized they could not legally proceed down the street, halted, and backed up 3 metres to exit the mouth of the junction.

The Adjudicator's Ruling: Appeal Allowed.
The tribunal ruled:"To satisfy the requirement of 'entering' or 'using' a restricted route, there must be a element of passage along it. A vehicle that penetrates the zone by a nominal margin and is immediately reversed out has not used the route for traffic purposes. The appeal is allowed under de minimis."
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