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TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
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Hi all

LOCATION ON GOOGLE MAPS: https://maps.app.goo.gl/QxViSG581oBhd6kv5

VIDEO FROM TOWER HAMLETS: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/z9259j35unqw7u32qgbyq/VIDEO-2026-02-19-08-44-05.mp4?rlkey=4kqxxulpxzkwbjfrhi2axvoqt&st=q0c84778&dl=0

IMAGES FROM TOWER HAMLETS (including the PCN): https://imgpile.com/p/UjMumiN

I'd really appreciate any support on whether I can appeal this. I got sent this PCN from Tower Hamlets Council for driving on a bus lane. It is evident from the video and images (see links below) that I tried to correct it within a few milliseconds of me realising i was driving during prohibited times, so the contravention is literally at the beginning of the bus lane. The video backs this up.
Any support will be appreciated!



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Re: TOWER HAMLETS - 34 Being in a bus lane - Cambridge Heath Road
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You can see the venal greed and rapacity of London councils with this case. I would take them all the way on this one. The basis of your appeal would be the offence did not occur for reason de minimis. Were you driving all the way along that street, or did you turn left onto it just before the bus lane ?

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I was driving all the way along that street. How would you suggest I appeal? If you have any templates or anything, it would be much appreciated!

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I was driving all the way along that street. How would you suggest I appeal? If you have any templates or anything, it would be much appreciated!
You need to major on the fact that you realised you were entering a bus lane, so moved as soon as was prudent, bearing in mind the neeed to check for traffic to your right), into the traffic lane. The distance covered in the bus lane was so short at around 10 metres as to surely be considered de minimis.

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Understood. Would you recommend a specific template?

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Understood. Would you recommend a specific template?
There are no templates, and for an adjudicator, (assuming you take them to London Tribunals), your own words are best, reviewed by us before you submit them.

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Video deleted. Is there upright signage visible?  Do not admit to anything.
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


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Video deleted. Is there upright signage visible?  Do not admit to anything.

apologies, i dont know how this got deleted. here's the video
the signage is visible tbh

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pgcqyx1azd8h0ug9genoj/WhatsApp-Video-2026-02-19-at-08.44.08.mp4?rlkey=4luv7z5nm587iz0sgrb5nlb8z&dl=0

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Looking at the video, I reckon you were in it for about 7-10 metres, and then never fully. The bus lane starts where the wide white line starts, not the dashed line before it, so your case is definitely one of de minimisplus anything Hippocrates suggests re the enforcement process and their errors with the PCN.
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Dear TH

Your video shows a sign to diagram 959 which is obscured. It does not show any sign to diagram 959. Therefore, the standard of proof of the alleged contravention is not satisfactory. Please cancel the PCN.

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Check their website grounds too and put the above into a pdf.

I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

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Dear TH

Your video shows a sign to diagram 959 which is obscured. It does not show any sign to diagram 959. Therefore, the standard of proof of the alleged contravention is not satisfactory. Please cancel the PCN.

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Check their website grounds too and put the above into a pdf.

Thanks for the draft. There’s no mention of the amount of time and distance that I was in it, so should I not mention that as well? Also, the signage is pretty clear in real life, in case that makes a difference!

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Hi guys, thanks for the advice that’s already been given, I really do appreciate it. But just need a bit of clarity please:
Should I be appealing based on the de minimis of only being in it for a tiny amount of time and distance, or because the signage isn’t clear, or should I incorporate both?

I’m not great at this kind of stuff so I do apologise in advance!

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I would mention the de minimis intrusion into the bus lane. If you get to London Tribunals, one always fires all one's ammunition.

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I would mention the de minimis intrusion into the bus lane. If you get to London Tribunals, one always fires all one's ammunition.


How’s this for a draft (thank you AI!), please let me know what you guys think!

To Whom It May Concern,
I am writing to formally appeal against Penalty Charge Notice [PCN NUMBER], issued in respect of vehicle [REGISTRATION], for the alleged contravention of ‘being in a bus lane’ on Cambridge Heath Road on [DATE].
I respectfully submit this appeal on the following grounds:
   1.   DE MINIMIS
Having reviewed the council’s own enforcement video, it is evident that my vehicle was present within the bus lane for no more than approximately 7–10 metres, and at no point fully within it. Upon realising I had inadvertently drifted into the bus lane, I moved back into the traffic lane as promptly as was safely practicable, having first checked for vehicles to my right.
The intrusion was momentary, minor, and immediately self-corrected. I submit that such a brief and negligible incursion should properly be regarded as de minimis, and that issuing a full Penalty Charge Notice in these circumstances is disproportionate and unreasonable.
   2.   INADEQUATE SIGNAGE / INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE OF CONTRAVENTION
I further draw the council’s attention to the fact that the enforcement video submitted in support of this PCN does not clearly show a sign to diagram 959 in a manner sufficient to establish that the contravention occurred. The standard of proof required to sustain a Penalty Charge Notice has therefore not been met.
For the above reasons, I respectfully request that this Penalty Charge Notice be cancelled in full.
Yours faithfully,

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Looks OK to me. If nobody else suggests alterations, ram it in ! Don't expect them to roll-over and cancel, though.