Tooting, PCN due to stopping on a red route

Hi all, thanks for any help in advance.

I was driving my sister in laws car and stopped in tooting. I read the sign and realised I could not park there so left.

She's been sent this PCN. Could I argue that I was only stopped but after reading the sign I left and so should not have to pay?

https://imgpile.com/p/Ccc33Xn

I suggest you contact TfL and request the DVD which halts the enforcement for a while.

And then you and we can put your recollection to the test!

Fair enough, I'm assuming it's to find out exactly how long I'd stayed?

It's to see and test their evidence in the form of CCTV and your recollection as to the events.

So just got the disc. Was a struggle to find something to play it on

It's footage of about 1.5 minutes and shows me reversing into the spot. The whole footage does not show anyone getting out of the vehicle. There is a few seconds where the door on right back passenger is opened slightly but shuts again.

As I said we weren't there for more than a few minutes, if that. I hope this footage proves that. I'll try to upload

If it makes any difference I did have my baby son in the car and needed to feed him so needed to stop but carried on when I realised I couldn't park there

https://canva.link/5cpkblhprjy9qxl
https://streamable.com/okgwmj
https://jumpshare.com/s/Io67O92MThoHBttVL76s

video link

Looking at their video, I think you were there rather too long for an excuse of "parked, read the sign and then moved off". Sorry to say it !

Looking at their video, I think you were there rather too long for an excuse of "parked, read the sign and then moved off". Sorry to say it !

Considering the cars still moving for around 30seconds of the 90seconds video (difficult to say as the camera zooms in as soon as I'm in the zone), with around a minute to put handbrake on etc and then read the sign - I'd say a minute is not a lot of time.

Nobody gets out of the car the whole video as well so can't argue I didn't move off as soon as the video ends, I would think

Quote from: Incandescent on September 15, 2026, 08:33:48 pm

Looking at their video, I think you were there rather too long for an excuse of "parked, read the sign and then moved off". Sorry to say it !

Considering the cars still moving for around 30seconds of the 90seconds video (difficult to say as the camera zooms in as soon as I'm in the zone), with around a minute to put handbrake on etc and then read the sign - I'd say a minute is not a lot of time.

Nobody gets out of the car the whole video as well so can't argue I didn't move off as soon as the video ends, I would think

OK, fair enough, submit some reps on the basis of your posting here. The council will automatically reject your reps so for a result you will have to forego the discount and take them to London Tribunals and risk the full penalty.

Is there a grace period for red routes at all or some sort of out for the fact it's not proven I was there for more than a minute?

OP, you have been accused of "stopping", not "parking". Red lines mean no stopping, nothing to do with parking.

OP, you have been accused of "stopping", not "parking". Red lines mean no stopping, nothing to do with parking.

Fair enough
But there's a sign with timings when you can stop and I think it would be better for me to read it parked up rather than in the middle of the road

By when must your sister-in-law submit reps?

By when must your sister-in-law submit reps?

Not sure. It's currently on hold on tfl website

Until it's not, without warning!

Surely they included something in a covering letter with the DVD?