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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
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From photos 2-3 on the TFL website 'PCN details', it seems to show that the rear of my car, though partially in the junction box, did not cross the extension of Sunnyhill Rd. No cars were in the least prevented from exiting from or turning onto Sunnyhill. And, it is not a pedestrian crossing
The 'discount' still seems to be on offer
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The red lines represents an extension of the kerb-line of the side-road, while the blue line is where I estimate your rear bumper was when you stopped:



I don't see how I could argue your car was not at the junction.

On balance my disinterested advice at this point is to pay, you need to decide what you want to do.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
« Reply #32 on: »
I appreicate your frankness
It seems that you do not think that the blemishes in the PCN and response to the Representations are sufficient to have a reasonable chance of success if I go to the Tribunals
I really feel caught out by this one, especially I caused no obstruction
Thank you
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« Reply #33 on: »
I went last night to throw in the towel and pay the discount rate
It had gone up to £160
I only received the representations rejection last week, far few days than the 14-days mentioned in the rejection
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
« Reply #34 on: »
Well obviously TFL can't know how long the rejection took to arrive in the post. On the other hand, if there's nothing to be lost you might as well appeal.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
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I have just contacted TFL about the 14-day discount period that was re-offered in the Representatioins rejections letter. The letter was dated 1 Sep but not received until 12 Sep
I went to pay the £80 discount yeterday, 18 Sep, only to discover that it had changed to £160
According to the TFL agent, the discount period is dated from the date on the letter, not on the date of service, with no allowance at all for the letter to arrive. Thus, the discount period ended on 15 Sep
The agent had no idea when, exactly, the letter was actually posted. And, understandably, could not account for the length of time RM took to deliver the letter. There was no back-up email regarding the rejection
The agent was unwilling to re-instate the discount, even though I offer to pay it immediately
I have no choice now but to appeal to the LT
Any advice as to how to frame the appeal will be appreciated
Thank you
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
« Reply #36 on: »
I've won a case on this point before, see Nayeem Haque v Transport for London (2220767288, 15 November 2022).

Would you like me to represent you at the tribunal?
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
« Reply #37 on: »
Yes, please
Thank you so much
I will file the appeal in the next couple days
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Quote from: gumph69 on September 20, 2023, 10:21:38 pm
I will file the appeal in the next couple days
Please don't do that, I'll email you directly.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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