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Hi All,

I can't stay away from here apparently.

Will it be challengeable based on the fact only a small amount of the vehicle was in the markings, if not on any technical grounds?


PCN No. GX32403739
VRM CU18HND

PCN:

<a href="https://ibb.co/hxVfqD7Y"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/GfRThcxH/IMG-9872.jpg" alt="IMG-9872" border="0" /></a>

I am dealing with this on behalf of someone else as they would not be able to deal with these matters by themself unfortunately. However any information required is readily available with me.

I do believe this was the junction based off the location given on the PCN, and the vague road markings that can be seen in one of the stills provided by TFL, but I can't be 100% certain.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/jciiYL9mFpzDk45a9
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Based off the location "Kennington Lane / Albert Embankment", this can only be referring to one specific box junction and no other? If the one I have linked in question is the correct one, then 80% of that box serves no reasonable purpose of preventing traffic impedence.

TFL also have not provided any video footage.

Is there a way I can 100% link the location on the PCN to a specific junction box?
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The video has to be requested from TFL - which they will send snail mail on a DVD....

You need to see the video to confirm if a contravention took place - but moving traffic conventions may be open to technical appeal, especially TFL ones.  Get the video and see what it shows first.
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Quote from: ILoveCats123 on January 20, 2026, 12:58:01 am
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TFL also have not provided any video footage.
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You (the keeper) have to telephone TfL and ask for the video to be sent and the PCN to be placed on hold whilst it is being sent(on a DVD).


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N.B. TfL normally re-offer the discount in rejecting reps submitted within the discount period, so keep an eye on time passing.
Please also post remaining pages of PCN.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2026, 08:33:06 am by John U.K. »
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Quote from: John U.K. on January 20, 2026, 07:42:56 am
Quote from: ILoveCats123 on January 20, 2026, 12:58:01 am
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TFL also have not provided any video footage.
 . . .

You (the keeper) have to telephone TfL and ask for the video to be sent and the PCN to be placed on hold whilst it is being sent(on a DVD).

I thought we were in 2026 but okay, I’ll ask the keeper to do this.
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We might be in 2026, but TFL is still in 1996 🤣
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Quote from: RichardW on January 20, 2026, 09:11:27 am
We might be in 2026, but TFL is still in 1996 🤣
I think they just got rid of the quill pens and ink stands last week. But of course the more obstructive they are, the more money they make.
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Footage of the alleged contravention has been requested, thankfully it was a lot easier than I originally aniticpated.

I've confirmed the status of the PCN has been placed on hold while the request is being processed
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DVD Arrived but now need to find a way to extract the footage.

Back soon.
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I think even London Tribunals are getting fed up with TfL still being in the dark ages ! Hopefully they'll start to refuse DVDs as evidence at adjudications.
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Quote from: Incandescent on January 29, 2026, 11:59:26 pm
I think even London Tribunals are getting fed up with TfL still being in the dark ages ! Hopefully they'll start to refuse DVDs as evidence at adjudications.

I wrote to their CEO at the end of 2024. To no avail and I discussed it with the C.A. in February.
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Never tried imbedding a gif before so hope this works!





Link to full footage if it's required
« Last Edit: January 31, 2026, 10:27:11 pm by ILoveCats123 »
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Okay well it didn't work apparently... it's still viewable though
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