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Brent PCN - Contravention Code 38L - Wembley High Road, Failing to comply with a sign indicating vehicular traffic
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Please find attached my PCN, which was issued for passing to the right of the vehicular sign. As I was turning right and there was no traffic on the other side, I took the right.

Is there any hope in appealing this PCN? I couldn't find any similar cases for this contravention code but I'm wondering whether all the rules related to camera enforcement were followed. Any help in this regard would be appreciated.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10UO3SbzUEtoFN1cS8-ocUSSG64UhUMeL/view?usp=sharing

Alleged contrvention images/video is found here
https://brent.tarantoportal.com/PCN/PCN/ViewImages
« Last Edit: July 29, 2023, 12:50:31 pm by cp8759 »
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Re: Brent PCN - Contravention Code 38L - Wembley High Road, Failing to comply with a sign indicating vehicular traffic
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This is a blatant contravention, if @CyclingMikey had caught you you'd be at risk of points on your licence for doing something like that. So we definitely cannot challenge the contravention.

In terms of getting the PCN cancelled, two aspects come to mind. The first one is that by giving information about the date of service right next to the payment deadline, the authority is giving somewhat ambiguous information.

The other aspect is down to who the keeper, what's your connection to the LLP that the PCN was issued to?
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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Re: Brent PCN - Contravention Code 38L - Wembley High Road, Failing to comply with a sign indicating vehicular traffic
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The statement re date of service after the statement re paying is confusing.  Cp:  you have posted salient draft representations on this very issue on the other forum and one other member has a similarly worded PCN.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=150635

Sorry, cannot find the other thread with your reps. included.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2023, 09:52:25 am by Hippocrates »
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Brent PCN - Contravention Code 38L - Wembley High Road, Failing to comply with a sign indicating vehicular traffic
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Quote from: Hippocrates on July 30, 2023, 09:50:13 am
Cp:  you have posted salient draft representations on this very issue on the other forum and one other member has a similarly worded PCN.
I can't find it either but once we hear back from balu_sw, it's a two-minute job to type it up again as it's a simple point.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Brent PCN - Contravention Code 38L - Wembley High Road, Failing to comply with a sign indicating vehicular traffic
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I have found the argument.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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