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I parked briefly in a loading/unloading bay on Tfl Red Route I have used several times to unload items to charity shop next to it. The sign USED TO SAY Loading Permitted between 10am and 4pm (No stopping between 7am and 7pm). Google Street View shows this was the sign in July 2024. I received a parking ticket because I now realise the sign has recently changed to No Loading "except 7pm - 7am". HOW DO I FIND OUT WHEN THE SIGN CHANGED? I've tried to look on the internet. Many thanks.

Sorry. Here's the PCN and screenshots of the sign in July and the new one.

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Where's the video pl?

This is quite a significant change.

Previously the RR prohibition was 7am to 7pm, which was out of context with the preceding DRL and following DRL. The loading exemption sat within this. Given that the RR prohibition ended at 7pm, then in effect anyone could stop there for any reason 7pm-7am.

Now, they have changed the red route prohibition to 24/7, changed the anything goes period so that this is now loading only and removed any anything goes period.

It's possible, but putting up the wrong sign is not unknown - there was another thread here on this very issue quite recently.

DRL - Double Red Line

Call TFL on Monday on 0343 222 3333 and ask for the video, they will put the PCN on hold and send you a DVD in the post.

TFL Ref - https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/penalty-charge-notices

OP, let's be clear:
You received a PCN addressed to you;
You made representations;
These have been rejected and you have a Notice of Rejection.

If yes, then post this document - NOR, Notice of Rejection of Representations. Your only options are to pay or appeal and there are time limits applicable to both.

And to repeat: get the video.

Your problem is that this does NOT stop the clock as regards registering an appeal, so pl get on with it ASP and post the NOR(all sides and all corners). And pl stop posing questions until these actions have been taken because time is not on your side. 

To change the times, there should be a Traffic Regulation Order that amends the times. The sign must reflect the TRO that establishes the restriction.

Thank you so much to both of you. I will follow up on your advice tomorrow (not sure I’ve totally understood but will try) and report back how I get on, if that’s ok.

Hello again.

I have now received the TMO notice from TfL (after 3rd time of emailing!) which I attach. Despite saying enforcement was to be December 2023, the signs had not changed by July 2024 at least. I have asked when the signs were changed but have yet to receive a reply.

I also have the video from Tfl. I don't know how to upload it without showing the registration number which I'd rather not do.It shows me parking in the loading area behind a rubbish truck (which was blocking the sign) and my husband getting out of the car with the bag for the charity shop. My break lights are on throughout as I waited in the car.

Is any of that any help for my appeal? I have a date for the appeal in a couple of weeks.

Most grateful for any advice.

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