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Hi all

I recently received a PCN for 'Performing a prohibited left turn (no left turn)'. This is Contravention Code 50L. This took place in SW London, heading Westbound on Atkins Avenue, with the junction of Kings avenue (Google Streetview here - https://maps.app.goo.gl/LLi9HpbYef2gRr6g7)

PCN Notice is here - https://imgur.com/a/IL9GjNi

The 3 photos of my contravention are all here - https://imgur.com/a/exAr7Wm. There is no video on the TFL PCN website for me to view.


Can I appeal this PCN on the basis of the following:

- My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that TFL need to demonstrate evidence of before, during and after the contravention. Specifically the vehicle approaching the sign, making a prohibited manoeuvre and continuing. Therefore, does TFL not need to show a video which shows my car making the left turn, as well as the 'no left turn' sign clearly indicated in the video? On the TFL website, there is no video for me to view, only the photos I have uploaded, and these photos do not show the 'No left turn' sign

Are there any other ways I can appeal this?

Thanks!

TFL sends videos by DVD and you have to ask for it. If you haven't a way to play a DVD that has become an appeal point but probablyy more so for say box junction contraventions. They can supply dated pictures of the signage not seen in the videos and adjudicators will look at Google Maps.

Thanks. Should I request a DVD? I actually don't have a way to play a DVD (I have an iphone, laptop and tablet, none of which have a CD/DVD drive).

See this case but it's for a box junction, where video evidence is critical.

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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/tfl-and-dvds-their-technology-clock-is-ticking/

Thanks. I'm guessing video evidence is critical for box junctions, as a still image doesn't prove if the car was stationary at the time. I'll still request a DVD and see what happens, but would I need to fight this all the way to court and hope TFL don't show up? IF they do show up and I lose, what sort of costs am I looking at?

Thanks

There's no court - it's a tribunal and the most you can lose is the full penalty charge of £160.
TFL doesn't contest a lot of cases.
Have a look on the tribunal register to see if there any cases at this location. 

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/about/registers-appeals

Thanks, so in terms of next steps, which option do I tick? Or do I just call TFL and ask for video evidence?

From the options that are given on the PCN, I can't really tell which one is related to me asking for video evidence? Do I tick 'there was no contravention'?

The 14th day for my 50% discount expires tomorrow, so I really want to know what the next steps are please? Thanks

Thanks. They’ve said DVD is on the way and the PCN is on pause for 14 days.

What do I do now when the DVD arrives?

Hi everyone

The DVD has arrived but I have no way of playing it, let alone extracting it, as I don’t have the technical know how to do that.

Should I therefore appeal based on the fact that I don’t have a way to play a DVD, or, and this is purely going off of the still images that are provided, can I state that the images and video do not show the “no turning left” sign within the frames?

Thanks all

Sorry for another message. My 14-day limit expires today and I don’t know what to say.

Should I state that I’m unable to view the DVD as I don’t have a dvd player?

Or, should I mention that from the images (and therefore it is highly likely this will be the same for the video as the images are stills from the video), I can’t see the no left turn sign being shown in the images, which as per my understanding have to be shown in the evidence in order to be upheld?