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Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #15 on: »
No, you just tick the one box, for "did not receive the PCN".

Thank you. Makes sense.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2026, 09:34:52 am by harbmeister43 »

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #16 on: »
Hi,

Please does any learned member have a view on my TE7 explanation and is it suitable?

I know some forum members are law orientated but just need to know if it's good enough to send or missing detail.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2026, 01:51:04 pm by harbmeister43 »

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #17 on: »
I would leave out everything after 'landlord', and change agreement to arrangement.

Why tell the court, and TEC who are officers of the court, that the V5C was not updated for over 1 month when despite the moves there was a convenient address which could have been used pro tem i.e. your parents'.

This isn't a matter of 'law' as such, but as I understand it, here it is anyway:


(3) Paragraph (4) [accepting a Stat Dec] applies where it appears to a district judge[TEC], on the application of a person on whom a charge certificate has been served, that it would be unreasonable in the circumstances of his case to insist on him serving his statutory declaration within the period of 21 days allowed for by paragraph (1).[AKA Out of time]

(4) Where this paragraph applies, the district judge may allow such longer period for service of the statutory declaration as he considers appropriate.


What's 'unreasonable in the circumstances'? That the RK didn't take action to amend their DVLA record within a month!

I would wait for other views. This is one of the benefits of paying: there's no specific time imperative.





putting a set of facts to the court such that

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #18 on: »
Thanks @tincombe. Was your message curtailed?

The explanation of the interim address period was in response to your comment about updating the address only when she was in a position to receive mail.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2026, 07:28:47 pm by harbmeister43 »

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #19 on: »
Hi,

Please does any learned member have a view on my TE7 explanation and is it suitable?

Wrong forms??? Where did you get the idea you need TE forms?

Last time I looked, you need PE3 and PE2 --- but I'm rusty.

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #20 on: »
Please can you indicate the correct forms that need to be completed?
Noting that you DID ask

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #21 on: »
Hello Neil B,

Modified = I believe you are completely correct - PE2 and PE3.

I've been looking at the wrong thing.

H
« Last Edit: March 25, 2026, 12:19:51 am by harbmeister43 »

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #22 on: »
I still think you are wrong and BAO has got it wrong before.

Doesn't matter; TEC will just bounce them back to you if I'm right.

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #23 on: »
Thanks.

I think in places I have looked and cases from ftla (2023/2024) it's TE7 and TE9.

My (daughters) TE7 submission now reads...

THE LATE SUBMISSION IS DUE TO AN UNFORTUNATE CONFLICT OF DATES. PCN ISSUED 20/9/25. V5C UPDATED ONLINE 25/9/25. I BECAME AWARE OF PCN VIA NOTICE OF ENFORCEMENT ON 14/3/26. IT SEEMS THE PCN WAS SENT TO MY PREVIOUS ADDRESS, AND NOT FORWARDED PER ARRANGEMENT WITH MY LANDLORD.
I ASSUME FURTHER NOTICES ALSO WENT TO THE PREVIOUS ADDRESS. I LEFT FLAT 1, 88 ELM PARK. BRIXTON ON 17/8/25. I STAYED WITH EX-UNI FRIENDS FOR ONE MONTH, CONTEMPLATING A PERMANENT MOVE. I MOVED BACK TO MY PARENTS (43 ASHLEY ROAD, SOUTH SHIELDS) ON 21/9/25 AND THEREFORE WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE MAIL AGAIN.

It's not pertinent to say when she moved out or any other dates or facts? Would they ask / for any follow-up?

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #24 on: »
Thanks.

 Would they ask / for any follow-up?
No.
and neither will they when you get around to using the correct forms.

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #25 on: »
You need to make a statutory declaration not a witness statement for TFL tunnel PCNs.

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #26 on: »
What legislation are TfL Blackwall Tunnel and Silvertown Tunnel PCNs served under ? Surely that decides which forms to use ?

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #27 on: »
I found this...
The following information applies equally to Congestion Charge enforcement, Low Emission Zone enforcement, Ultra Low Emission Zone, Silvertown and Blackwall tunnels charge enforcement. At each ...
London Tribunals · londontribunals.gov.uk


So agreed it's PE2/PE3.

The Notice of Enforcement date being 09/03 (but received in post 14/03) ... does this now only give until 30/03 to have the forms completed + SD witnessed/signed at CC?

Thanks again.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2026, 12:33:47 am by harbmeister43 »

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #28 on: »
The Notice of Enforcement date being 09/03 (but received in post 14/03) ... does this now only give until 30/03 to have the forms completed + SD witnessed/signed at CC?

Thanks again.
There is no longer any deadline as you've paid.

Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enforcement)
« Reply #29 on: »
I believed there was still a 21 day time limit to challenge the NoE regardless of payment.

There's no time limit to submit to TEC (and therefore TfL)?