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Re: TfL Box Junction - Vehicle stopped for pedestrian crossing not due to other vehicles.
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Quote from: John U.K. on November 18, 2025, 08:51:02 am
Quote from: MrChips on November 18, 2025, 08:20:24 am
Poor piece of driving which committed the mischief?
What mischief? What poor driving?
Anyway well done for seeing this through.

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Well done  :) . Cannot see the point of Mr.Burke's snidey comments.
Case number 2250341944

Thank you! I stayed up until midnight to check if it had been assessed yesterday and it had!

And yes there is no point. But it was rather amusing, and I'll be sure to pass those comments onto the driver  ;D
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Well done.
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Further to this London Tribunal win, I referenced the case in an appeal for another TfL PCN at the same location and for the first time ever (as far as I recall) TfL accepted my initial appeal. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BJMlbN5eUOO9Z-JbwZcB5qQtcC9S_Ik0/view?usp=drivesdk
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If I was the driver, I'd be writing to the Chief Adjudicator and asking for Mr Burke's defamatory statements to be struck from the official record.
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Drivers are now expected to be able to see into the future. Well done for seeing this through though
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"... Having done so I am satisfied
this was a poor piece of driving
which committed the mischief
which the Regulation aims to
prevent; the Appellants' driver
entered and stopped in the box
junction... "


What a daft and totally unnecessary comment

Presumably if Parliament had intended to outlaw the mischief of stopping in a box juntion then that is what they would have prevented, rather than limiting it to stopping because of the presence of a stationary vehicle.

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In fairness, he also said this:

The Enforcement Authority can avoid cases such as this by locating their cameras in positions which show the traffic beyond the box junction. In any event, on this occasion I am not satisfied they have established their case and accordingly I allow the appeal.

Put it in The Guinness Book of Records.
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