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Hi - I crossed the Blackwall tunnel 3 times back in oct 25. I paid for them using my bank card. I received a pcn for one of the crossings. I responded to it saying I’ve paid them and sent screenshot of my bank. They replied back saying we need evidence such as receipt or card number etc. I did not receive any receipt for any of the crossing I made even though you have to select email or text on the payment. The only evidence I have is a payment of £4 I made that day to TfL on my bank app. I just received a charge certificate of it today. So I checked the status online. They did receive my further evidence which I provided a card number but they rejected it 28th nov but I received no comms of this?

Please advice charge certificate attached
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Wait for the PCN to be registered at TEC, then submit a Witness Statement stating you submitted reps, (your follow on with the card details),  but received no response.
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Update. So I made statuary declaration and was sent a letter that the order for recover be cancelled but not original PCN. I’ve just received a pack from TfL that they would like to proceed with its enforcement. There’s so many pages I’ll just attached the first one if there’s any other important ones to upload I can do.

I have my bank statement to show I paid on the day but no receipt. I’ve paid for many crossing haven’t received any receipts for them.

Do I do anything at this point or can I forward my evidence to the adjudicator or something ?

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Further reading into TfL’s papers. I noticed they attached all payments for my vehicles. On separate sheet they attached 2 crossings which I paid for on 26/10/25. (Pcn relates to 25/11/25)

On the sheet it says I paid on the 25 and the date selected was 24/ so it’s possible that when paying the crossing I chose 24th OR I did cross the 24th and I’ll be honest I don’t remember as I crossed a few times around that time.

My question would be, why they only provided evidence of me crossing on the 26th and not the one on the 24th if I did cross then.

This is hard to figure out when you don’t get receipts.

Also another query would be that they had multiple times to tell me actually the evidence you are providing is for the 24th not 25th. Instead none of the rejection letters on the pack states that.

Again I mention as I did not receive any receipts I went what was on my bank statement which shows I made a payment on the 25th

Any case here?

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All you can now do is present your side of the case to London Tribunals incl copies of payment records.

Submission of Witness Statements is only a backstop to get the process reverted to where it went astray, the original PCN always remains extant.
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Can I submit my case to the tribunals now?

Also does that mean the 50% discount is not available amymore?
Have you got a hearing date ? Under the process, TfL must pass the papers to London Tribunals who will decide whether TfL win or you do. TfL must pass on everything, incl your reps. Do you have a hearing date and case number yet, or any thing at all from London Tribunals ?
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So essentially TfL have, by law, passed the case documents to London Tribunals. If you have nothing else, I would suggest you contact LT to find out when/if there will be a hearing. Decisions based on papers never go well so find out if you can insist on a hearing (which will be by phone or video).

Sorry, but I don't know the detail of the procedure in a case like yours, so hopefully somebody will post soon with greater knowledge.
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Where is their evidence that you incurred the charge i.e. CCTV or stills therefrom? All the rest is words and assertion, where's their evidence?

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Would like some advice I apologise I’m rubbish at keeping hold of my letters. I appealed to tribunals am I able to post the tribunals response here?

They favoured with TfL as I have accepted the possibility there was a confusion of payment dates HOWEVER I had mention plenty of times on my case that I did not recieve their letter of rejection which increased the penalty to £180. At no point in the tribunals response did they acknowledge that TfL did not provide any evidence for posting my letter of rejection (which I asked for). So because of this i was not able to pay the discounted penalty.

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I think: 9260236091

(from the PCN in question which is shown in the correspondence posted by the OP. The decision seems to reflect the situation set out by them).

At no point in the tribunals response did they acknowledge that TfL did not provide any evidence for posting my letter of rejection (which I asked for). So because of this i was not able to pay the discounted penalty.

As the case was scheduled as an appeal by the adjudicator, you would have been notified to this effect AND sent a copy of TfL's evidence in advance of the hearing which was postal i.e. you did not attend and therefore it was decided on the evidence which, if you did not add anything to your initial reps after being notified of the hearing, would be based upon your reps ONLY and TfL's evidence. This may or may not have included other correspondence, we don't know.

So:
Were you notified of the hearing;
Did you receive TfL's evidence and if so how and when;
Did you submit any further comments to the adjudicator prior to the hearing?

As it stands, you have to pay the full penalty within 28 days of being notified of the decision.