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TFL 46 Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
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Hi There,

I received a PCN from TfL on the above contravention for parking in what I'm pretty sure was within dotted lines in what is normally a red route on Sunday, 01/03/26 at 20:28 on Whitechapel Street.

I'm very familiar with that route and have parked there on multiple occasions previously without issues.

Initially, I thought that I received the PCN due to parking at the wrong time (Red Route operational from 7AM-7PM, Mon-Sat), but looks like I have been issued one because the claim is I was not inside the dotted lines - something that I believe was not the case and not clear from the photos TfL has issued. Here are the photos from TfL and Street Views.






One thing I notice is that there are two sets of dotted red lines, one prominent, the other slightly lighter. Could it be that they have changed it and I was potentially on the lighter side of things partially (even though it's not at all clear from the photos TfL provided)? But I thought the prominent marking was for the bus stop and nothing else.

Here's the Apple Maps Link that shows what I mean.


Really confusing. Thoughts welcome.
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Please post the PCN, all sides, with only name and address redacted.

I suspect your car intruded into the double-red lines, but until we see the PCN it's difficult to say. You could ring TfL and request the video, which is sent as a DVD. This will stop the enforcement for about 14 days whilst they send it out, and hopefully show why the PCN was served.
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Quote from: Incandescent on March 11, 2026, 02:04:11 pm
Please post the PCN, all sides, with only name and address redacted.

I suspect your car intruded into the double-red lines, but until we see the PCN it's difficult to say. You could ring TfL and request the video, which is sent as a DVD. This will stop the enforcement for about 14 days whilst they send it out, and hopefully show why the PCN was served.



Here you go. Let's see what DVD TfL send me.
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It's not totally clear from the photo extracts from the video, but I reckon you were partially over the double-red lines. Only way to find out once you have the video, (which may not show this, and they've just guessed it, yes really !!), is to submit representations stating that you were parked in a valid bay at the time the alleged contravention was detected.
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It looks to me like you were stopped about 30m further along the road at the entrance to Maples Place?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/FXVykXJzTezAKQVt5

The Lettings agency says 214 which is the reference on the PCN.
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Quote from: RichardW on Yesterday at 12:32:10 pm
It looks to me like you were stopped about 30m further along the road at the entrance to Maples Place?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/FXVykXJzTezAKQVt5

The Lettings agency says 214 which is the reference on the PCN.

I probably was, however what was extremely confusing is that red dotted parking marking exists further along but with double solid red lines...


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It is clear from going back into earlier GSV views, that the bay was longer, I reckon zbout twice as long.The last view with the full bay is 2022 : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/vZ6zyDb3NtacdETc9
there is no 2023 view, but the next view (2024) shows the bay markings, still noticeable, but with double-red lines added: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/oqA3bt8JVCbDpgxP8
Clearly the highways department are useless at following instructions !
and the latest view (August 2025)
still shows them:-
https://maps.app.goo.gl/J9ix12KW2XDLey558

The sign for the original length bay has remained in its original position so is now incorrectly placed.

Plenty here for an adjudication at London Tribunals methinks
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Quote from: Incandescent on Yesterday at 08:05:43 pm
It is clear from going back into earlier GSV views, that the bay was longer, I reckon zbout twice as long.The last view with the full bay is 2022 : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/vZ6zyDb3NtacdETc9
there is no 2023 view, but the next view (2024) shows the bay markings, still noticeable, but with double-red lines added: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/oqA3bt8JVCbDpgxP8
Clearly the highways department are useless at following instructions !
and the latest view (August 2025)
still shows them:-
https://maps.app.goo.gl/J9ix12KW2XDLey558

The sign for the original length bay has remained in its original position so is now incorrectly placed.

Plenty here for an adjudication at London Tribunals methinks

Thanks. Exactly my thought. On that day a couple of cars were parked behind me also so I couldn’t even see if there was a break between the bays and I simply looked at the sign that said no stopping between 7AM-7PM MON-SAT, noted it was Sunday and I was well within dotted parking bay. I’ll appeal to TfL first and take it from there.

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