Author Topic: Bedford, Code 62 Parked with one or more wheels on any part of an urban road other than a carriage way, Embankment  (Read 2136 times)

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The car looks clearly parked on tarmac in a car park. There is encroachment by vegetation. I really don't think there is anything more to this.

in the pic of front of car it does appear to me the passenger front wheel is over the (sort of) kerb. but the drivers isn't so maybe the edge is curved??
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Sorry, but surely the previous photos show a "No parking on verges" sign right at the front of your car ?
I thought the argument was that your parking was on the hardstanding, and the photos would seem to support this.

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Sorry, but surely the previous photos show a "No parking on verges" sign right at the front of your car ?
I thought the argument was that your parking was on the hardstanding, and the photos would seem to support this.





I'd still go with my draft suggestion in post Reply#14[/i]
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author=Incandescent link=topic=3829.msg45666#msg45666 date=1731626288]
Sorry, but surely the previous photos show a "No parking on verges" sign right at the front of your car ?
I thought the argument was that your parking was on the hardstanding, and the photos would seem to support this.

[img width=877.5 height=618]https://i.imgur.com/V0eWDiI.jpeg[/img]

[img width=877.5 height=1955]https://i.imgur.com/GRHVvfi.jpeg[/img]

I'd still go with my draft suggestion in post Reply#14


OK see what you are saying. There are two signs. But will go with the earlier draft suggestion thanks

Please post yr draft here for comment before sending.

planning to go with something like this. please provide feedback. I plan to submit  tomorrow. Thanks

I am writing to formally challenge the Penalty Charge Notice for the alleged contravention of “parking with one or more wheels on any part of an urban road other than a carriageway.”

I believe the PCN was issued incorrectly for the following reasons:

Vehicle Position:

The council's photographic evidence clearly shows that my vehicle was parked entirely on the tarmac hardstanding of the Swan Hotel's car park and not on the verge. While there may have been a minor overhang of the bumper or one wheel, this is negligible and falls under the legal principle of “de minimis.” As such, the contravention alleged did not occur.

Signage and Ambiguity:
The "No Parking on Verge" sign visible in the photos is positioned in such a way that it applies to the area behind the sign (i.e., further onto the grass verge). My vehicle was parked on the hardstanding in front of the sign, making the restriction ambiguous at best.

Incorrect Contravention Code:
The contravention code cited in the PCN is incorrect. If there were a valid reason to enforce a penalty, the correct code should have been for parking on a footpath or private road, as detailed in Annex B of the Secretary of State’s Statutory Guidance. The use of an incorrect code invalidates this PCN.

Private Property:
My vehicle was parked on private land owned by the Swan Hotel or its parking operator, as indicated by the signage at the car park entrance. The council does not have jurisdiction to issue PCNs on this land without a clear and applicable Traffic Regulation Order (TRO), which I believe does not exist in this case.
For these reasons, I respectfully request that the PCN be canceled.

I look forward to your response and am confident this matter can be resolved promptly.

« Last Edit: November 16, 2024, 12:30:22 am by seanjean123 »

The grass areas are council property, impose the boundary of the car park block paved area, and  the 'No Parking' signs relate to those areas. 

This is a case of de minimus and council enforcement at its worst.  But, that's Bedford's modus operandi unfortunately.



Please can someone have a look at my reply and see if this is ok.

Thanks

I'd just change 'formally challenge' to 'challenge' (the 'formal' stage is yet to come, see the enforcement process: https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process) then IMO you're good to go. If they reject, then at least we should see their reasoning.

I can't see any need for anything more than 'The contravention did not occur - the council's photographic evidence clearly shows that my vehicle was parked entirely on the tarmac hardstanding of the Swan Hotel's car park and not on the verge.'

But you may as well throw in the kitchen sinks.

IMO, the wrong contravention should be put to them as well. 'Urban road' went out with the Ark.

Hi all,

I responded on the website to the charge and challeneged it. I did not receive anything back until today. I received a letter from the post saying i should pay GBP 70 as i did not pay the GBP35. I did not even receive anything about my challenge if it was successful or not. Please how should i proceed

Have you checked the address on your V5C is correct and up to date?