Author Topic: Harrow Code 33E Route restricted for Buses/Cycles/Taxis - Camrose Avenue (Again!)  (Read 772 times)

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cp8759

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I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule.

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Well done.  An illuminating decision.  :)
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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Or rather a not illuminated decision. :) Well done to all.

I've found from my boss who lives in the area that a number of similar bus gates exist in the Harrow area, mainly to stop residential roads being used at through routes by lorries which is understandable I suppose. But these roads are usually bus routes as well, hence the bus gates.

The other main reason is the cash they generate for the council.
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Thanks to @cp8759 for representing me and successfully arguing my case. Sadly the council have now improved the lighting from what it was at, at the time of the PCN.

But I'd say that their inability to provide key information (such as CCTV and original appeal text) within a reasonable time-frame could make them liable as well, given the 12th March misleading around keeping the discount on hold (when it wasn't)

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Sadly the council have now improved the lighting from what it was at, at the time of the PCN.
On the other hand we can hope that the improved lighting will result in fewer contraventions and fewer PCNs being issued in the fist place.
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order