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St Barnabas Street 01 - Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours
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hi and merry christmas.

https://imgpile.com/p/0ifO4qL

posting on behalf of a friend.

they parked at https://maps.app.goo.gl/3Rgzm3yJBXcjy79v7?g_st=ipc

in the bays, the sign says permit holders until 10pm, they parked on a single yellow. I have looked around on the area and there is not a sign that tells you if you can park at specific times on a single yellow.

the link on the westminster parking page states:

Sat, 27 Dec 2025 11:57:44 - No Valid Permit or Paid for Parking Found

the pictures given also do not show the permit sign or any other sign.

can this be contested? thanks
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Re: St Barnabas Street 01 - Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours
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The link to the Westminster website I see from your post repeats what it says on the PCN, namely "01 -parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours". Any sign on a bay nearby does not apply to yellow lines.

You say he parked on a yellow line but there were no signs giving the restricted hours. This means he parked within a Controlled Parking Zone where the restricted days and hours are shown on sign at the entrance to the zone. A 2-minute look on the Westminster website shows he was parked within Zone A2
Restricted hours are: -
Mon-Fri 8.30am - 6.30pm
Sat 8.30am - 1.30pm

He would have passed these signs: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LoWEdsoPyN1ausLN6
I suggest he traces his route using GSV Street View, and at the point where he entered the zone, if the signs are not there he has a case.
Here is the location where he parked: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LoWEdsoPyN1ausLN6

So, the bottom line is the PCN seems to have been correctly served, unless the CPZ entry signs on his approach are missing.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2025, 09:37:32 pm by Incandescent »
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here is the route

https://imgpile.com/p/4C6TGYS


the only permit sign that was visible was (51.4905936, -0.1494346)

this sign is quite far from the parking area surely?

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I'm afraid not. Have you looked at the Westminster CPZ map ? They are large and whilst the guidance years ago saids they should not cover more than a few streets, that has been totally ignored for at least 20 years. It's just part of living in London. No sign by the yellow line = you are in a CPZ.
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Can we see the original PCN? Also, the date re the price increase is wrong.
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the is the only PCN we have.

and for the date, is it 14 working days - so should be 16/1 instead of 13/1?

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8th or 9th.
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I would wait for the NtO assuming they reoffer the discount if reps. are rejected.
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There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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