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Lefeuvre76

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SOUTHWARK PCN FOR BUS LANE INFRINGEMENT
« on: March 13, 2025, 08:31:49 pm »
Good evening,

I wanted to run this past you as although my gut feeling is that I am bang to rights in this instance I have read that you haven't lost a Bus Lane case since 2021 so I thought It wouldn't hurt to check.

I have been issueed a PCN by Southwark for being in a bus lane temporarily having existed a Shell garage into the traffic on Crystal Palace Parade in London.

I attach the full PCN and the images/video they have as evidence. Moments after the video ends I pulled into the right lane as I was turning right up ahead.

Apologies if I have forgotten to add anything. Any advice would be gratefully appreciated.

PCN (4 pages)

https://imgur.com/a/YJSKRSt

Evidence given by Southwark:

https://imgur.com/a/LJfvsaT










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Re: SOUTHWARK PCN FOR BUS LANE INFRINGEMENT
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2025, 09:34:35 pm »
There is a wording flaw in the PCN paperwork.

You should also check the online PCN portal, as recently southwark were found to have misstated the period for issuing a charge certificate and an adjudicator allowed the appeal on that basis.

If noone responds I can draft a challenge if that helps.
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Re: SOUTHWARK PCN FOR BUS LANE INFRINGEMENT
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2025, 11:54:09 am »
Please take a screenshot of the web page. I will look at the video later this evening and get back. Please do not pay it! I have not lost a bus lane case in the last 4 years.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Re: SOUTHWARK PCN FOR BUS LANE INFRINGEMENT
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2025, 09:29:00 pm »
Quote from: Hippocrates on March 14, 2025, 11:54:09 am
Please take a screenshot of the web page. I will look at the video later this evening and get back. Please do not pay it! I have not lost a bus lane case in the last 4 years.

Much appreciated Hippocrates.
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Re: SOUTHWARK PCN FOR BUS LANE INFRINGEMENT
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2025, 10:14:45 am »
@cp8759 @mrmustard

Enjoy!

https://imgur.com/a/YJSKRSt

1. Beautiful! Two wrong grounds listed!

2. Issued under the wrong Act (2003)

3. The amount outstanding on the Penalty Charge Notice will increase to £130.00 on Mon, 24 Mar 2025. Please pay £65.00 now.

I will advise privately as they most probably watch me.  Basically, the PCN is almost totally  null and void. I am more than happy to do this one if it goes the full distance.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2025, 10:26:53 am by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Re: SOUTHWARK PCN FOR BUS LANE INFRINGEMENT
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2025, 02:52:00 pm »
A very quick response from Southwark.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2025, 04:13:58 pm by Lefeuvre76 »
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Re: SOUTHWARK PCN FOR BUS LANE INFRINGEMENT
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2025, 04:03:05 pm »
Quote from: Lefeuvre76 on March 21, 2025, 02:52:00 pm
A very quick response from Southwark.

You are strongly advised to redact yr name & address.
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Re: SOUTHWARK PCN FOR BUS LANE INFRINGEMENT
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2025, 04:14:29 pm »
Quote from: John U.K. on March 21, 2025, 04:03:05 pm
Quote from: Lefeuvre76 on March 21, 2025, 02:52:00 pm
A very quick response from Southwark.

You are strongly advised to redact yr name & address.

Thank you. Now redacted.
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Re: SOUTHWARK PCN FOR BUS LANE INFRINGEMENT
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2025, 11:58:30 am »
Quote from: Lefeuvre76 on March 21, 2025, 04:14:29 pm
Quote from: John U.K. on March 21, 2025, 04:03:05 pm
Quote from: Lefeuvre76 on March 21, 2025, 02:52:00 pm
A very quick response from Southwark.

You are strongly advised to redact yr name & address.

Thank you. Now redacted.

And the PCN please.

They are most surely having a laugh. Wait for the EN. Alternatively, I could sort this lout for you now if they wake up in response to one of my specials. Their pursuit of this is a waste of taxpayers' money.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899
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