Author Topic: PCN 21: Suspended Bay. Royal Greenwich.  (Read 892 times)

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Re: TMO - How to get it
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All published here: https://redbridge.traffweb.app/traffweb/1/TrafficOrders

You can search by street name / number, click on the restriction you want to look at and then click "view documents" and "order document". I also keep a backup copy of The Greenwich (Charged-For Parking Places) Order 2018 but for the map tiles, you'll have to get them from traffweb.


Thank you CP.

But did you mean Redbridge?  (which is freely readable)

When I try https://greenwich.traffweb.app/traffweb/1/TrafficOrders  I get a log on prompt.  I have tried to register. This is being approved.  Is this a staff page?
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Re: PCN 21: Suspended Bay. Royal Greenwich.
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The Greenwich (Charged-For Parking Places) Order 2018

Has the following relevant section on suspended bays, given the suspension reason was defined as "works" on the suspension notice:


(3) Any person duly authorised by the Council or the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis
may suspend the use of a parking place or any part thereof whenever he considers such suspension
reasonably necessary:

(b) for the purpose of any building operation, demolition or excavation adjacent to or in the
near vicinity of the parking place, the maintenance, improvement or reconstruction of
the highway or the cleaning of gullies in or adjacent to or in the near vicinity of the
parking place, the laying, ****, alteration or repair in or adjacent to or in the near
vicinity of the parking place of any sewer or of any main, pipe or apparatus for the
supply of gas, water or electricity or of any electronic communications network or the
placing, maintenance or removal of any traffic sign;


(5) On the suspension of the use of a parking place or any part thereof in accordance with the
provisions of this Article, the person authorising or causing such suspension shall place or cause to be
placed in or adjacent to that parking place or that part thereof, as the case may be, a traffic sign indicating
that waiting by vehicles is prohibited
:



I await the actual TMO. But it seems that from the above the council have not shot themselves in the foot by requiring a compliant warning sign - which does not exist. See London Borough of Camden Case No. : 2090523567 link above - but simply a  "traffic sign indicating that waiting by vehicles is prohibited".

As the same case also says:

In cases of bay suspensions I and many other adjudicators have taken the view that provided the Council can prove that the bay was lawfully authorised for suspension, and that there was a sign or signs properly sited which gave a clear indication of that fact, the motorist parking there will be in contravention.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2025, 09:38:13 am by JoCo »

Re: PCN 21: Suspended Bay. Royal Greenwich.
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OK.  So I got the standard fob-off rejection of my informal challenge.

Worth my while continuing this and risking 50%?


The only thing which strikes me is the comment:

"[Temporary suspension signs] have been checked and we can confirm that they are correct and in line with the regulations." Which begs the question what regulations? as AFAIK suspension signs are not defined. 

I have applied FOI for the TMO and the suspension request. 


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