Harrow, Code 38L Failing to comply with a sign, Dennis Lane

Hi all

Just writing for some advice.  I have received a PCN for Dennis Lane, Harrow for failing to copy with a sign.

This topic has come up before https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/dennis-lane-stanmore-harrow-code-38l-pcn-traffic-pass-to-left-sign-though-too-sm/msg93084/#msg93084)

In our situation a BMW iX was involved with a width of 1980mm. This would not fit through the gap specified and so I think the argument can be made to cross the broken lines especially if there is inadequate notice warning the driver on approach.

I know its unlikely to appeal due to the blue arrow which is a must do but can I appeal on these grounds: the lack of notice for wider vehicles, its unlikely the wide vehicles would fit through, and a sign stating that opening is for emergency vehicles only?

Link to PCN here:https://www.harrow.gov.uk/parking (YR22VKV)

Thanks to everyone for their thoughts!

Nav

Welcome to FTLA.

For meaningful advice please to have a read of

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/.

and post up here copies (not transcripts) of

all sides of the PCN,
any council photos/video,
and
a GSV link to the location.


Only redact yr name & address from documents - leave all else in.

Thanks.

Copy of the PCN attached. I don’t think there is anything on the PCN that can be challenged - though would be keen to hear if I have missed anything.

My original questions still stand, and which form the basis of the appeal:

The lack of notice for vehicles wider than the specified wdidth (6ft 6inc) - its unlikely that wide vehicles would fit through and there is no safe escape route, and the absence of a sign stating that the white line area is for emergency vehicles only.

A BMW iX was involved with a width of 1980mm. This would not fit through the gap specified to go through, and so I think the argument can be made to cross the broken lines especially as there is inadequate notice warning the driver on approach, despite the ‘must do’ blue arrow.

The only other thing of note is that the vehicle is a company car and the PCN was sent to the DVLA registered address.

Link to PCN: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EedOFftMz_JEtNhToRdLrHafgW5RwIVD/view?usp=sharing

Link to the video on council’s website - car registration YR22 VKV
https://www.harrow.gov.uk/parking-permits

And Google maps location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Lbt55PMMfrawwWgx7

Thank you for your thoughts and advice.

Nav

At the moment, you have no rights to appeal, as you are not the owner. I suggest you find out what the arrangements are for the lease company receiving PCNs. Do they pass on the name and address of the lessee, or just pay the PCN and off-charge.

The vehicle is registered to a company owned by a family member - therefore they have passed it on.

You'll need a letter of authority if you want to appeal the PCN. Responsibility for payment always remains with the V5C holder.

Unless someone has anything on Harrow's wording/process, pay the discount.

There are advance signs of the width restriction at both ends of Dennis Lane.

Thanks stamfordman for the prompt reply.


I don't recall seeing advance signs of the width restriction and I can't see them on Google street map, though I appreciate that these are from last year.

Any further advice from anyone else please?