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Re: Southwark, 19, Parked in residents' bay
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Apologies - have been away. Let's see what they come back with but you've been rather confrontational and they know what assisted alighting/boarding is.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2025, 12:40:01 pm by stamfordman »

Re: Southwark, 19, Parked in residents' bay
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OP, my question 'And she said to him and he said to her?' hasn't been answered..I was waiting for this to tweak your draft. But that's gone.

Either she saw and spoke to the CEO or she did not. If yes, then 'as I said to the officer at the time' could have been added. If not, then 'as I would have said to your officer at the time..'.

Re: Southwark, 19, Parked in residents' bay
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@stamfordman – No worries at all. I wasn’t intending to be confrontational — just trying to avoid having to take it to tribunal if possible. I included the examples not to explain what assisted alighting is (I’m sure they know), but to show that even cases with longer durations have been overturned. I thought if I didn’t include any context, they’d just default to “5 mins is plenty, rejected” and move on.

@H C Anderson – Apologies, I misunderstood your earlier comment. I thought you were saying it was a “her word against his” situation and not worth pursuing from that angle — as I know you usually keep things strictly within the regs. To clarify: she didn’t speak to the CEO — by the time we returned, the PCN was already on the car and he was walking away. I’ve spoken to CEOs in the past and they’ve always just said “you’ll need to appeal and they will cancel it”, which obviously isn’t a guarantee of anything.

Will update once I hear back — appreciate all the input as always.

Re: Southwark, 19, Parked in residents' bay
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Just a quick update on this one. I received a response today - the ticket has been cancelled, a rarity in my experience for Southwark - would be good to know why they did though:

PCN Challenge Review - Traffic Management Act 2004 (Part 6)

We refer to the informal challenge you have made against the issue of the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) JK16709240
We have examined the facts surrounding the issue of this PCN and taking into consideration the contents in your
correspondence, we have decided to cancel your PCN.
Please be advised, the PCN was cancelled for reasons other than those provided in your challenge letter, and should not be
taken as a precedent. This cancellation has no bearing on the validity of any other PCNs that may be issued to you in future
under similar circumstances.
Each of the examples provided in your letter relate to stopping and escorting vulnerable passengers; and the PCNs were
issued where waiting and loading restrictions apply.
Whilst the traffic management order permits vehicles to stop for the purpose of enabling persons to board or alight a vehicle,
no such exemption applies to vehicles parked in paid-for parking bays, including those designated for permit holder parking.
In this instance, as the PCN has been cancelled, no further action will be taken.

Re: Southwark, 19, Parked in residents' bay
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I don't think they are right that boarding/alighting doesn't apply in permit/pay bays - certainly this is a common exemption in London Councils guidance and I would be surprised if they've excluded it.

Re: Southwark, 19, Parked in residents' bay
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Well done ! We rarely see councils cancelling PCNs after receipt of reps.