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Hi all, thanks cp859 for directing me here.

I stopped outside a commercial building on Wards Road to collect some items.

I can't have been in there for more than 120 seconds.

As I was coming out I saw a parking officer in front of my vehicle.

I said "I'm here" or something to that effect. The officer looked up. Said he had already printed the ticket.

I'm not sure my vehicle was observed for a continuous 30 seconds as I was there so briefly. I also wonder if the ticket was printed after the officer saw me coming to the vehicle. Please could anyone advise if I should appeal this or if I was indeed in the wrong.

Front of PCN:



Location: https://goo.gl/maps/HHFCoGm88xMxDPy79. I was parked half on the kerb directly outside that office building.

Thanks Again

EDIT: Photos

Thanks for your reply. Have edited the post to include images.

Is the vehicle leased / hired, or are you the registered keeper?

What sort of items were you collecting?

Were you alone?

Where was the officer when you first saw him?

In any event there are footway parking signs on this road, see here: https://goo.gl/maps/T4qDRXTACGKN5SxM6

Also it appears a footway parking resolution was made at some point:

Delegated approval briefing note.
List of roads.

Dear all, thanks for your input.


In response to cp859:

Is the vehicle leased / hired, or are you the registered keeper?

I am the registered keeper.

What sort of items were you collecting?

Wrapping materials for medical devices.

Were you alone?

Yes.

Where was the officer when you first saw him?

In front of the car.

In any event

Do the signs and the footway parking resolution mean I should appeal this PCN? Could you advise on how I might word the appeal? Reasons for Challenging the PCN

In response to TheRookie

Bang to rights

Does this mean No contest I was in the wrong?


In response to Incandescent

PCN is a nullity

Does this mean No contest the PCN was incorrect?

There are no breaks in that yellow line

What significance does this have?

Just trying to understand the situation better, and I can't thank you all enough.

For me, the sign I posted a GSV link to applies to the yellow line, so the parking off-carriageway sign applies until the yellow line stops.
The yellow line is in place where the OP parked and then stops at the double yellow around the junction: -
https://goo.gl/maps/gvx9hfj5iw1gSKsLA

There's also one on the other side of the street too: -
https://goo.gl/maps/7DJHrtyed9evWVoL9

I can't see how the council can win this, but no doubt with the £££ signs in their eyes, they'll try.

Please post up the rejection.
Did you send the exact text as in post reply#7?

About to pay this penalty, will wait a few minutes in case anyone here thinks they might help me take this further! TIA

The sign referred to states:
No waiting Mon-Sat 8.30am - 6.30 pm.

An additional sign includes the 2-wheel footway parking symbol with the words:
At other times and Sunday.

The PCN was issued at 2.30pm on Saturday 26 Aug.

According to that sign, footway parking was not permitted when the contravention occurred.

Or is there a different sign elsewhere?

Even the sign is odd(apart from thinking that 'other times' doesn't include Sundays) which might indicate confusion on the part of the council which could reveal itself later in the form of a different or no resolution e.g. why only allow footway parking outside the 'no waiting' period because this denies drivers the ability to park there when engaged in waiting-exempt activities such as collecting etc? 

But IMO, as it stands the contravention occurred.