Author Topic: Redbrdige - Sydney Road, Barkingside 53j Restriction on Entering a Pedestrian Zone  (Read 55 times)

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Hi, I received a PCN from Redbridge council for entering Sydney Road, Barkingside. Been entering this road for years and only realised they had this restriction, and worse I entered just to park on the side to use the cashpoint for the barbers, so I was literally there for only 2 minutes. I have seen some posts on this forum around this one being challenged for the sign. Appreciate any help if there are grounds to challenge or consider it as a very expensive haircut!

PCN here:




Some photos of the sign:


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The 2nd thread this week where the signs have been placed excessively high up. There is no possible need for the blue sign; it is not a traffic sign, not is there really any need for the camera sign. If these were omitted, the sign could be respositioned lower down, and hence more in a driver's line of sight.

Can you please post a GSV link to the location

This is the GSV link but it's from 2018 so doesn't show the new signs in place:
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You're right there, lots of information on the signs, some unnecessary and very high up, how can a driver assess all that in a couple of seconds whilst turning into the road  :(

We need to know if there are any advance warning signs on the main road in either direction. If you can go and have a look and take photos, it will help. Absence of advance signs makes your reps stronger.

I checked today and these signs appear either side of the road:




The presence of these advance warning signs makes it much more difficult to overturn a PCN on signage (inadequacy). At the moment, I see only excessive height of the signs incl the advance signs as well.

There may be a 'technical' appeal based on Redbridge's mismanagement of the enforcement process, so wait a bit to see what may be possible, but don't miss any deadlines on the PCN.

I'd like to add, the first sign that OP has posted (the advance notice sign) is more often than not obscured by the double decker busses that stop at the bus stop. If you are approaching the junction travelling southbound (towards Gants Hill) and there is a bus or two at the stop, that sign will be missed. Immediately before the bus stop, there is a Yellow Box junction - there is so much stuff drivers are expected to look out for, IMO the signs are deliberately placed too high.

The second photograph is when you're travelling northbound towards Fullwell Cross - while this isn't at a bus stop, I have to ask why the junction is shown as a T junction on the advanced notice sign - it isn't a T junction at all.
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So really, if the OP wants to stand his ground, there is an answer to the advance signs visibility. Of course the full PCN penalty will be in play at London Tribunals as always.
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Totally, if the OP has dashcam footage of their approach to the junction, it may assist (if its obscured by a bus) - that's if they want to take it to the Adjudicator. As you rightly point out, its the full amount at play.