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PCN received from Barnet for 'Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours'

Judging by the GSV there is only one sign showing the restrictions on the street and that is on the entrance to Woodstock Road further down from where I had parked the vehicle. There is not another sign showing this from the other side of the entrance nor from where the road splits. (see below link)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/wmL8ttqYmfdHSPX2A

PCN Ticket :

https://ibb.co/yhr5yZr
https://ibb.co/GRd2dLp

Online PCN :

https://ibb.co/HgpywHX
https://ibb.co/P4xZdjJ

Location of PCN :

https://maps.app.goo.gl/26wRvaYa4Yf9mUi36

Entrances to Woodstock Road :

https://maps.app.goo.gl/r1HVG5f3tXyWhwX59
https://maps.app.goo.gl/d6kgTNKn1i4YZDjQ7

Is there any errors within the PCN and would the evidence based off the GSV be valid for the appeal?

Thanks
« Last Edit: March 25, 2024, 10:23:36 pm by cp8759 »

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Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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PCN is ok IMO.  If this is a CPZ, and you passed that sign, this is a problem.
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Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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I drove in from the other entrance of the street so I wouldn't have passed that sign

Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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I drove in from the other entrance of the street so I wouldn't have passed that sign
Yes, but it's a CPZ consisting of several streets, so the signs are at the entrances to the zone. You will have passed the same sign on your way t your parking location. If you can prove there was no sign at the street where you entered the zone, you should win.

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I drove in from the other entrance of the street so I wouldn't have passed that sign
Yes, but it's a CPZ consisting of several streets, so the signs are at the entrances to the zone. You will have passed the same sign on your way t your parking location. If you can prove there was no sign at the street where you entered the zone, you should win.

Oh really, makes sense now.

Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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There is another thread going about a street in Golders Green, which is a rather large CPZ. Try re-driving your approach virtually using GSV. Always remember in London when parking-up, that, "if it looks too good to be true, then it is too good to be true".

Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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There is another thread going about a street in Golders Green, which is a rather large CPZ. Try re-driving your approach virtually using GSV. Always remember in London when parking-up, that, "if it looks too good to be true, then it is too good to be true".

Relied mostly on that it's a Sunday tbh lol

Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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There is another thread going about a street in Golders Green, which is a rather large CPZ. Try re-driving your approach virtually using GSV. Always remember in London when parking-up, that, "if it looks too good to be true, then it is too good to be true".

Out of curiosity, if one can not simply afford to pay a PCN is there procedures to set up direct debits for payment or must people wait for bailiffs for these options with all extra fees...

Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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Out of curiosity, if one can not simply afford to pay a PCN is there procedures to set up direct debits for payment or must people wait for bailiffs for these options with all extra fees...

The law's attitude is that if one can afford to run a vehicle, one can afford any concomitant PCNs....
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Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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@privates did you challenge the PCN, and have you received a rejection?
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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@privates did you challenge the PCN, and have you received a rejection?

I did challenge this PCN yes, I challenged it under the basis on why I attended this address and also how there is no 'restriction' signs on the route I took anywhere on my route coming from Finchley Road. I am awaiting a reply
« Last Edit: April 19, 2024, 07:30:22 pm by privates »

Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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@privates you know your post is as reliable as a chocolate teapot, therefore you don't have the luxury of waiting for a reply. The council website says the amount due is £65 and this indicates they've issued a rejected and reoffered the discount, so I suggest you contact the council urgently and ask them to email you a copy.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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@privates you know your post is as reliable as a chocolate teapot, therefore you don't have the luxury of waiting for a reply. The council website says the amount due is £65 and this indicates they've issued a rejected and reoffered the discount, so I suggest you contact the council urgently and ask them to email you a copy.

I received the letter today.. https://ibb.co/Z2Y0bjg

I had appealed this on the basis on attending a family members house whom is recovering from a health issue as an emergency. They have asked for medical evidence which i can not supply due to this same health issue. (There is usually parking on the house driveway which wasn't the case as random cars had parked there which I had explained).

Also there is no restriction zone signs visible when driving down from Finchley Road onto Golders Green and then into Woodstock Road which I had noticed last time I attended.

My last representation :

Dear Sir/Madam,

The only evidence I can provide as asked for is a text message of her rushing me on the day and me having to attend her as soon as possible. Unfortunately she has no medical papers that has been requested as she hardly as any such sort of things in her home due to her own medical issues. Would the text messages be sufficient?

I'd also like to note upon returning there recently I have noticed there is no restriction zone signs to make me aware of the restriction zone. I had entered the street from the Golders Green roundabout and there is no restriction sign zones leading towards the address where it was parked. It is also evident of this through Google Street View maps as I have looked.

 Again I would like to mention I usually park on the private land outside of the house but two cars had randomly and illegally parked outside of the home address on the private land which stopped me from being able to park on the parking lot. Due to this I had no time to plan ahead as I usually park there. I now know since this day to plan ahead in case of such situation and I am also now aware of the restrictions. I believe if there was restriction boards in place I would of been aware of this regardless of the situation. I had drove to Golders Green Roundabout from Finchley Road onto Hodford Road and then a right turn onto Woodstock Road where the car was parked during this penalty charge notice but none of the roads show any signs of restrictions or the hours of restrictions. For the reasons above I ask that this PCN is cancelled.

 Thank you. Fariba

« Last Edit: April 25, 2024, 12:02:36 am by privates »

Re: Barnet - Parked in restricted street during prescribed hours
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I had appealed this on the basis on attending a family members house whom is recovering from a health issue as an emergency. They have asked for medical evidence which i can not supply due to this same health issue. (There is usually parking on the house driveway which wasn't the case as random cars had parked there which I had explained).
You're going to have to share details of what these medical issues are. If you don't feel comfortable putting the details on here, you have my email address so you can send them to me privately. But whatever you do, I need details in order to advice on this case.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order