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Code 62- wheels on footpath - but tree means no impact to pedestrians
« on: December 02, 2024, 12:45:58 pm »
Hi all,

I had never known that it is illegal to park with one or more wheels on a footpath until today when i received my PCN - especially surprisingly considering the narrow, double parked streets around where I live in, and number of cars who park with wheels on the footpath! So begrudgingly willing to accept fine, due to ignorance.

HOWEVER, the half a wheel that is on the kerb is directly next to tree, meaning no direct impact to any users of the footpath.. . Not sure if its even worth attempting to argue?

Most of the images supplied for evidence are blurry - this is the only one that clearly demonstrates anything:
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Any recommendations appreciated- as I say, will pay for being ignorant but is very annoying!
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Re: Code 62- wheels on footpath - but tree means no impact to pedestrians
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2024, 12:51:11 pm »
Please post both sides of unredacted PCN and a GSV link to the location.
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Re: Code 62- wheels on footpath - but tree means no impact to pedestrians
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2024, 12:55:08 pm »
Parking off-carriageway has been an offence in London since the 70s, over fifty years ago and needs no signs or lines, so surprised you didn't know about this.
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Re: Code 62- wheels on footpath - but tree means no impact to pedestrians
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2024, 01:08:51 pm »
GSV: https://maps.app.goo.gl/nCyPFLGzp8Ez1JFXA

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Re: Code 62- wheels on footpath - but tree means no impact to pedestrians
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2024, 01:12:06 pm »
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Re: Bromley - Code 62- wheels on footpath - but tree means no impact to pedestrians
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2024, 12:50:08 pm »
I'm really sorry, Imgur are saying I can't set up an account using email and I'm not on social media create an account that way.

Looking at the 'things to include', I'll redo it all here so its all in one place (apologises, also can't see how to edit title to add 'Bromley'):

1.TOPIC TITLE. Bromley - Code 62 - wheels on footpath. Sidney Road.

2. Outline your case: Its half a wheel on a kerb rather than footpath (does that make a difference) and had a tree next to it so does not impact use of the footpath. The thing that REALLY annoys me is that I live on parallel street and EVERY SINGLE CAR on a stretch of my road is parks on the footpath, on both sides of the road. I checked Monday and Tuesday to see if I was going mad but most cars parked like that. So the inconsistent application of the law, in a scenario that does not impact any pedestrians, is whats annoying me and makes me want to argue. Also, the pictures taken by the officer are appalling quality.

However, as mentioned, I am now aware that this has been law in London (since the 70s!) so if I need to pay, so be it.

3. Post the PCN and GSV link:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/nCyPFLGzp8Ez1JFXA

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Any advice much appreciated; thanks in advance
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Re: Code 62- wheels on footpath - but tree means no impact to pedestrians
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2024, 01:42:25 pm »
It's a very petty, money-grubbing PCN, but if you took them to London Tribunals, I fear you will lose because part of the car is on the footway. Although the ban on off-carriageway parking in London has been in place since the 70s, councils continue to dine-out generously on PCNs for people who are unaware of the ban.

GSV shows a normal London street with double-yellows on one side and parking bays on the other. I have to say that the angle of your car in their photo hints that your rear wheel was also on the pavement.
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Re: Code 62- wheels on footpath - but tree means no impact to pedestrians
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2024, 02:42:29 pm »
Thanks @Incandescent I suspected as much. I accept it's the law but ultimately my defence is a bit 'but you didnt give anyone else a ticket! No one got hurt!'

Expensive highways lesson for me! 
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Re: Code 62- wheels on footpath - but tree means no impact to pedestrians
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2024, 03:08:58 pm »
You could try a challenge that it is trivial but council will probably say the regulation is also there to protect kerbstones, pavements and verges and not just obstruction.
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Re: Code 62- wheels on footpath - but tree means no impact to pedestrians
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2024, 03:29:22 pm »
And the next road, Churchfields, does permit footway parking (which is indicated by particular traffic signs, despite having the wrong signs erected.
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