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PCN - yellow line - Redbridge, Ilford CPZ, Thorold Road
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Hey folks,

Sorry to see the old forum go but onwards and upwards as they say.

I have an active challenge with Redbridge Council currently going on. I received a rejection after submitting my representations compiled with the help of the folks on forums.pepipoo.com. I have posted the OP URL below but the site is no longer available. I did try visiting cached pages but couldn't get to the second page where a few new comments were made on Monday.

ref: forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=149936&st=0&gopid=1779877&#entry1779877

Please see the rejection letter below via the link.

rejection_of_notice_edit.pdf
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Re: PCN - yellow line - Redbridge, Ilford CPZ, Thorold Road
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Here is the representation that was drafted on the forum and then sent to the council

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Dear London Borough of Redbridge,

I challenge liability for PCN AF05949101 on the basis that the alleged contravention did not occur. This is my wife’s vehicle and she was driving at the time, upon consulting The Redbridge (Waiting, Loading, Stopping and Street Parking Places) Consolidation Order 2021 I have found that the car was not within a properly defined Controlled Parking Zone.

Further to this, the entry signs for a Controlled Parking Zone can only be erected "to indicate the effect of an Act, order, regulation, bylaw, resolution or notice which prohibits or restricts the use of the road by traffic", as the CPZ signs, in this case, do not convey the effect of any Act, order, regulation, bylaw or resolution, their use is not authorised by Schedule 5 to The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016.

Finally, the public CPZ map omits any mention of this CPZ. It follows that the contravention did not occur and the penalty charge must be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,

xxx
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I was advised to wait for the notice to owner (nto) so will post here once i receive it.
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And the original PCN is below

hina_redbridge_pcn.pdf
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Re: PCN - yellow line - Redbridge, Ilford CPZ, Thorold Road
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I've moved both your threads to the civil forum, as you'd posted them in the criminal cases section.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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Hi All,
I have now received the Notice to Owner letter. I have attached the link below.

PCN-NTO-AF05949101-edit.pdf
Google Docs · drive.google.com


Any advice?



***Just adding a link here for the OP for reference http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=149936
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I would make the same representation again. As long as the council receives it by midnight on Sunday, they should re-offer the discount.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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@cp8759
Thanks for the feedback. If they refuse again, what happens next?
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We'll look at the rejection and outline the pros and cons of appealing to the tribunal, and you can then make an informed decision.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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