Author Topic: PCN whilst broken down: appeal rejected b/c no VAT number despite photos of recovery supplied  (Read 2056 times)

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Just by way of update, still no NtO.

Any thoughts on how long is reasonable to keep waiting until I can consider that one won't be coming at all?

Case reference   2240394922
Decision Date   21 Nov 2024

Ms Ebanks credibly submitted that her car overheated, requiring her to stop. She provided a garage receipt. The Council did not accept that the receipt corroborated a breakdown and commented that it was handwritten and did not contain a VAT number. The absence of a typed receipt with a VAT number does not render the document worthless.
I find that the car could not be moved due to circumstances beyond the control of the driver.

Each case turns on its own facts and in this case we know s*d all.

OP, as you're not the RK it's not your direct concern.

You've already lost one of the forum's most experienced posters because you won't post what's been outstanding for 2 months and I suggest you do so otherwise you, or more specifically the 'family member', will likely lose more.

Time to stop asking questions and answer those already asked.

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Mick, you are a very, very bad man

I appreciate you're frustrated with the lack of documents on the original question, but several users were able to provide helpful input without documentation.

In any case the question is no longer a specific one, the question now relates to moving from PCN appeal to NtOs in general.

That is, has anyone got any experience - any at all, from any council, anywhere in the country, at any time in their lives, regardless of circumstances - of councils simply not sending a NtO after initially rejecting an appeal?


They have 6 months from the contravention date to serve an NTO to the registered keeper at the address on the V5C logbook.


They have 6 months from the contravention date to serve an NTO to the registered keeper at the address on the V5C logbook.

Perfect, thanks very much. That would be February 18, so there's still a couple of months for them to send it out if they fancy it, then.


Case reference 2240394922
Decision Date 21 Nov 2024

Ms Ebanks credibly submitted that her car overheated, requiring her to stop. She provided a garage receipt. The Council did not accept that the receipt corroborated a breakdown and commented that it was handwritten and did not contain a VAT number. The absence of a typed receipt with a VAT number does not render the document worthless.
I find that the car could not be moved due to circumstances beyond the control of the driver.


Thanks also for this - shameful that this exact attempt at a sham fine has been attempted verbatim already. If the NtO does come through and I have to take it up again, I would be very surprised if I didn't get a response like this almost word-for-word. I can't believe councils even bother trying to go to tribunal on such pathetic grounds in the first place.

Are you able to let me know which council this was from, please? Or any other details on the case - just so I can have it on hand to refer to, if useful down the line.

You can look it up on London Tribunals website quoting Case reference 2240394922

Great, thanks - found it.