Author Topic: PCN - Wandsworth Council - Parked on double yellow whilst loading - Newtown Street  (Read 150 times)

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Hi there - thanks in advance for any help!

Situation
- On the 28th April 2026, I parked on Newtown Street (SW11 5HH) whilst loading my vehicle with an old kitchen that was being taken to Wandsworth dump the following day.
- Whilst loading, my car bumper was over the double yellow lines, and subsequently, I received a PCN because of that. There are no parking signs down this street.
- I saw the ticket being issued and ran out and explained I was loading my car and can move it now, but the CEO simply said it had already been issued.
- I was in the long process of waiting for a car parking permit to be issued. The permit should have taken 2 weeks but it took 12 weeks as the council admitted issuing it to the wrong person and then also losing my form.
- In my appeal, I mentioned that I was loading my vehicle and I went into detail about the issue with not yet receiving a parking permit, and that if I had the parking permit, I would have not had to park there.
- Of course, the PCN appeal was rejected and a Notice to Owner has been issued. In hindsight, I should have reached out here first, but I stupidly thought that based on my appeal and the council admitting fault, the PCN would be cancelled.

Resources
1. The PCN - I can't find a copy of it, but can request it if needed.
2. The appeal letter - I can't find a copy of it, but can request it if needed.
3. The Notice to Owner - https://ibb.co/JWZBQdPN
4. Parking enforcement protocol in Wandsworth listed on the councils website. Screenshot of page 6 of the PDF - https://ibb.co/Z650BQ2t

Next Steps
- I want to make representations to Wandsworth council, but this time, I am going to focus on the loading part vs the permit issue, and want advice on how to make it as water tight as possible.
- I have until the 27th of July to submit this representation.
- On Wandsworth councils website (https://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/parking/pcns-and-parking-fines/about-penalty-charge-notices-pcns/), they have embedded a PDF file called 'Parking enforcement protocol'. Within this PDF, on page 6, it says that a PCN may be cancelled if unloading/loading, and outlines a varying observation period depending on the size of the vehicle from a minimum of 2 minutes to a maximum of 20 minutes.
- On the PCN received, there was no mention or time frame for observation period. Just a single time listed.
- The PCN photos show a 1 minute difference from the first photo to the last photo, which could show they didn't following any observation period guidelines.
- I have an email confirming that I booked a time slot for a visit to Wandsworth dump the following day.
- I can get a witness statement for the person who helped me dismantle and load the old kitchen into my car.
- I have confirmation emails of a new kitchen being ordered.

Questions
1. Does this feel like a valid argument?
2. For the reasons of A-J, what would the suggests be that this falls under? I believe it's J.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2026, 04:42:24 pm by londondriver »

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Loading/unloading is an exemption to yellow lines, unless there is also a loading restriction present, indicated by yellow kerb blips.

PLease post whatever documents you have, (NtO excepted as it is already in your thread). Also. please post a GSV link to the exact location, telling us exactly where you were parked.

+1. Particularly GSV.

Loading/unloading is an exemption to yellow lines AND an optional exemption from parking place restrictions.

Forget the permit for the moment, it's not relevant.m


Noted and agreed on the parking permit stance.

I’m afraid that the only document I have is the NtO. I threw away the PCN ticket, as I thought the appeal would be fine.

Ah, yes, apologies. Here is the GSV link. https://maps.app.goo.gl/gPZqfJWSEnaqrYuB8?g_st=ic

Here’s a screenshot where I’ve circled in green where part of my front wheel and front bumper was over the double yellow line. There are no yellow kerb blips, or any signs regarding loading restrictions. The street is a dead end road, on a housing estate.
https://ibb.co/Hfznxr7D

As you have the NtO now, it is a no-brainer to take them all the way to London Tribunals because the discount period has expired. OK, they may re-offer it when rejecting your formal representation against the NtO, because if you take them to LT, it's a PITA for them, because they must produce an evidence pack and also pay the adjudication fee.

What you need to do is to reinforce your loading case with collateral, like photos of the goods you were unloading, and also the detail of what that loading required and why it took the time it did, plus the letter you mention and the bill for the new kitchen.  Of course the CEO can't really be blamed because he had completed the PCN seeing a car in contravention and unattended until you ran out, and they really cannot cancel them once entered onto their terminal, that has to be the council parking office.

Also be aware that councils game the system ruthlessly by rejecting virtually all challenges against a PCN like yours, because they know that over 95% of people then just cough-up to get the discount. Most people are totally ignorant of parking law, and also are terrified of going to adjudication, thinking it will cost them hundreds of pounds which is total nonsense. At the adjudicators, the maximum one can pay is the PCN penalty and no more.


I’m afraid that the only document I have is the NtO

Pl post this leaving in everything except personal details, on which point pl confirm it is addressed to you.

@Incandescent
Okay, thanks. I’m happy to take it to LT if it gets to that point. The parking permit delay (which I understand isn’t relevant) has got me riled up and given me fighting energy!

@tincombe
The link to the NtO was shared above. Here it is again. Let me know if you can’t access it and I can look to share another way. https://ibb.co/JWZBQdPN

And yes, it was addressed to myself.

IMO, the NTO is substantially compliant.

What objective evidence do you have?

I can get a witness statement for the person who helped me dismantle and load the old kitchen into my car.

If you were dismantling while the car was parked then IMO this does not qualify as 'loading'.


We weren’t dismantling whilst the car was parked. We were loading into the car but some items were heavier than others (such as the oven) so we had to figure out how to lift them between us, hence the delay.

The evidence I can provide is what I previously mentioned so a booking for the dump for the following day, photos of the old kitchen, order of the new kitchen and a witness statement.

I've drafted a representation, and any feedback is appreciated!

https://ibb.co/yBd5WDJT

Must say the car doesn't look big enough to load ovens and kitchens.

Were you making several trips.

Any pics of stuff.






You would be surprised! The entire kitchen, once broken down, was loaded into the vehicle and taken to the dump over 2-3 trips. The first trip was the heaviest and was the day after the PCN as help was required on the day the PCN to move the heaviest items such as the oven, biggest units etc.

I have photos of the kitchen before it was dismantled and after it had all been removed, but not a photo of the stuff actually dismantled in a pile for example.

Your reps look fine. Each person's approach is unique and for me I would tone down the 'did not consider' part.

Perhaps....in my previous representations I raised the issue of loading, but this does not appear to have been given proper consideration, it certainly was not addressed in your response. I am making the point again, albeit in more detail, and would this time encourage the authority to give the necessary consideration to my grounds.

That’s helpful - thank you. I like that approach better, so will amend.