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So, reading their rejection, de minimis is OK for them but not for you ! Make sure you ensure the adjudicator sees this.

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Ok. I will PM the OP now. Do nothing and follow my advice to the letter.
From the NOR: There is no requirement for the specific camera to be approved  ff = Totalissimo boleauxissimo.

In light of this NOR, I am considering changing my username to Aristophanes.  ;D

About time I met Mr Hoare again.  ;)  Formerly at Kingston.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2024, 07:50:56 pm by Hippocrates »
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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So, reading their rejection, de minimis is OK for them but not for you ! Make sure you ensure the adjudicator sees this.
As JEdgar used to say on pepipoo: the NOR is pants.
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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ἔοικα γοῦν τούτου γε σμικρῷ τινι αὐτῷ τούτῳ σοφώτερος εἶναι, ὅτι ἃ μὴ οἶδα οὐδὲ οἴομαι εἰ

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About time I met Mr Hoare again.  ;)  Formerly at Kingston.
@Hippocrates I take it that's not adjudicator Hoare you're referring to?

Great chap, I was late at a hearing once but was very receptive to a technical argument, when the council officer complained that their paperwork had never been challenged his words were to the effect of "well, the tribunal exists to determine challenges. And one could say that if a car is parked 30 seconds after the start of a restriction before it is moved why does it matter, and the council might state that the regulations say it matters. Now the boot's on the other foot, Mr cp8759 has identified a procedural impropriety and the regulations say that it matters".

@Snudge88 follow Hippocrates's advice and you can't go wrong.
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule.

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cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

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No, the RBK person. Xed swords many times with him.

The game is on: 15th July. An interesting day as a costs hearing v Lambeth on the same day.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2024, 03:30:16 pm by Hippocrates »
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

"Hippocrates"

ἔοικα γοῦν τούτου γε σμικρῷ τινι αὐτῷ τούτῳ σοφώτερος εἶναι, ὅτι ἃ μὴ οἶδα οὐδὲ οἴομαι εἰ