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Hi, I’m looking for some advice on multiple PCNs I’ve received from Lambeth for entering a pedestrian/school street zone on Sunnyhill Road.

I’ve recently received my first PCN (reduced to £80), but it was issued around 10–11 days after the contravention date. During that time, I continued to drive through the same road daily to get to work, completely unaware of the restriction.

I now realise this is a timed school street restriction, but the signage is positioned right at the turn, so I didn’t notice it at the time. I am also not from the local area.

Because the first PCN arrived late, I have unknowingly committed the same contravention multiple times before I had any opportunity to change my behaviour.

I’m concerned I could now receive multiple PCNs for the same mistake, potentially amounting to a large total I cannot afford.

My questions are:

* Can I argue “continuous contravention” or that multiple PCNs are disproportionate since I wasn’t aware of the restriction before receiving the first notice?
* Has anyone had success getting additional PCNs cancelled in similar circumstances?

For context, I have now stopped using the road during restricted hours as soon as I became aware.

Any advice would be really appreciated.
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Please show us the PCN and VRM details and screenshot the website re all payments and dates periods as shown for starters.
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Here's a link to the details and screenshot:
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Screenshot is missing the vital information: the price, the date of increase and your proof of date of the shot.

We win cases because of this.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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apologies, updated link includes the price and discounted price as well as proof of screen shot time in the top right

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There is  no need and no help to us in obscuring the VRM and PCN details.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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third times a charm:
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Update 4 more pcn's have arrived as suspected, same road, so £400 total now.

Hoping i can argue continuous contravention.
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any advice ?
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Yes. You wrote this in your initial post:-
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* Can I argue “continuous contravention” or that multiple PCNs are disproportionate since I wasn’t aware of the restriction before receiving the first notice?
* Has anyone had success getting additional PCNs cancelled in similar circumstances?

YOu cannot argue "continuous contravention"; that applies to parking where a car remains at the same spot for several days and gets several PCNs, but even then this argument can sometimes fail to succeed. What you can argue is that until the first PCN arrived by post, you were unaware of committing the contraventions. So you could argue that {CNs dated between the date of the first PCN, and the date it arrived are disproportionate, and unfair. SOme councils will agree to cancel such PCNs on the basis you pay the first one. Others, being venal and rapacious, insist all be paid. Then if you take the matter to London Tribunals, success is not guaranteed either, and this time it is with the full PCN penalties in play.

So to handle this as a representation, you need to group them together into a single representation, and request the PCNs between the date of the first and the date the first one arrived, be cancelled.
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