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Islington PCN 12 - Parked in a residents or shared use bay
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hi,

I wonder if I have a shot at getting this challenge accepted. So the vehicle was parked in a 'business permit holder bay' when the driver had a residents permit. I understand the difference and that residents' permits do not extend to business permit holders. However, on this occasion, as you can see in the pictures I have attached, the sign saying Business permit holders only was so far down the street. The picture that the traffic office took was all the way down the road.

Compared to the distance of the signs on the opposite street, there was no Business permit sign close enough to where the vehicle was parked.

The closest sign, which is just about 4 feet away from the vehicle that is alleged to have made the contravention, is a resident's permit sign.

My challenge is that the either there is a sign missing or, this is an error on the part of the council. @cp8759


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Re: Islington PCN 12 - Parked in a residents or shared use bay
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Islington will say you must consult the sign(s) that apply to your bay and so do we. In London especially bays often differ in who they are for and when.

But this is a very long business bay and has a sign in the middle and at the other end.

But it is a shared use bay - business permit and pay bay.

In March 2023 it had a sign at your end but it then disappeared.

They do have a duty to sign bays well and it is not an unreasonable assumption that such a long bay is for residents but I suspect you'd have to take them to the tribunal to see if an adjudicator would agree.

Now missing sign:



Council pics




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Thank you very much for that, I'll use that picture I checked again today and the sign is still missing. I am going to challenge it on that basis, then. It is a long road, and the sign is missing where I parked, and the next nearest sign is for resident permits.

If i am using the missing sign as a reason, what do i select in the challenge options, is this 'impropriety' on the council's part,  miscellaneous, or another reason?
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The next nearest sign if in different bay might just as well be on the moon.

Are you a local resident and why did you park there.

Woodbine a decent Irish pub last time I was there.
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Yes, I am a resident; my parking permit extends to that area. True, the different bays can say different things. most of the bays are resident permits. Thing is i have been parking there on and off for months, if not years, with no ticket. This is the first time hence i never noticed that it was a business permit.
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Dear Islington,

I am challenging the PCN on the basis that the lack of signage misled me into believing I was parked in a resident bay.

I am a local resident and permit holder for zone xx and saw space at the top end of a long bay and parked in good faith that I was in a resident bay. But I now see that bay, which stretches from xx to xx Blackstock Road, is designated as a shared use business bay.

In such a long bay, I feel it is your duty to post and maintain clear signage as it seems unlikely that such a bay would not be for residents' use, and I see from Google Maps that there was until recently a sign very near to where I parked that would have alerted me to the bay type.

But this sign is now missing.

I enclose a picture from Google Maps of the sign that should be there and trust you will give consideration to cancelling the PCN on this occasion, and I hope this alerts you to reinstating the sign.

I look forward to your positive reply and am happy to be of service.   
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thanks you very much.  ;)
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