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Re: PCN had pass in window
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VRM means vehicle registration mark - ie your numberplate. There's no need to cover this up, it's on display to the public all the time.

To me this looks fairly straightforward, if you were "parked outside their patient/client’s home address" then your pass is valid. You should write a fairly simple challenge and include proof that you were parked outside the patient/client’s home address, and the Council ought to cancel the PCN.

Complaining about the Warden is also possible, but it should be a completely separate process to appealing the PCN and would best be done once you've got the PCN cancelled. Mixing the two processes up is likely to confuse matters.
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Re: PCN had pass in window
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From the council's website:
Where you can park

Whilst displaying a care and health worker permit, you may use your permit to park for free and for as long as your client’s or patient’s scheduled visit lasts (up to three hours) when:

parked on street in areas of limited waiting
parked on street in resident permit holder bays
using on street pay and display spaces (but not car parks)
using any combination of the above
You may also use it to park for up to three hours on most single or double yellow lines if all the parking spaces on the street are taken, or none exist near your client’s address.


From this it would seem that the burden lies with you here i.e. to convince the authority that when you parked 'all the parking spaces on the street are taken, or none exist near your client’s address'.

As the PCN was issued so soon after you parked, any adjudicator would take the photos of the surrounding area as representing the situation when you parked.

EDIT - IMO, you should think about what the CEO saw when they issued the PCN i.e. they saw the car in a road context. They knew nothing about shopping or whatever, so I wouldn't even go there. IMO, they MUST presume legitimate use if the permit is displayed correctly. But whether legitimate use = no contravention depends upon the prevailing circumstances which are whether 'if all the parking spaces on the street are taken, or none exist near your client’s address'. Of these, only the use of the road would be evident to the CEO.

I can't see your photos so, do any show free parking spaces in the vicinity of your car. IMO, even in this respect, 'vicinity' is subjective and as the client's incapacity would not be known to the CEO, then either there were free spaces very near or, IMO more likely, the CEO did not understand the use of your permit! In which case, IMO don't go beyond the basic and obvious in informal reps.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2026, 02:45:40 pm by tincombe »
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Re: PCN had pass in window
« Reply #17 on: »
Hi

Strange thing has happened I cant seem to login, I was at work last night and only had my phone, ive now tried at home and im getting the same message

When I type in my details I get this

The Penalty Charge Notice could not be found.
Please check that you have not mistyped.

Can someone else tripple check if it works or not

Reg GF08KFY

PCN YD19317851


https://parking.northdevon.gov.uk/3sclive/TicketDetails.aspx

Would they have cancelled ? Ive taken screenshots but wierd I cant login. The SU I was with ive seen since, funninly enough there is a traffic warden who works for my company, he told the SU the traffic warden was new, could they have spoken to each other and cancelled? Im a bit concerned now as obviously this is the cut off point or maybe its tomorrow? What does served mean do you get a few days so pcn was 1/4/26 its the 13/4/26 today, 14 days is the 15/4/26.

Let me know waht you think, I can add screenshots if needed but ive tried to login now for 2 days and cant seem to?

Many thanks

Re: PCN had pass in window
« Reply #18 on: »
It's still showing as outstanding @ £35 for me.
Try this website:
Don't ignore parking tickets. If you pay within 14 days you only pay 50% of the fine. Find out how to pay or challenge the ticket.
Roads and Transport · devon.gov.uk
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Re: PCN had pass in window
« Reply #19 on: »
Your PCN has Devon County Council at the top, so why did you try looking on North Devon Council's website ? Their photos show the PCN served, plus your pass.
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Re: PCN had pass in window
« Reply #20 on: »
duplicated
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Re: PCN had pass in window
« Reply #21 on: »
Seems straightforward. No nearby parking spaces.

IMO, either your pass was no longer valid(odd design that there's no expiry date on its face, but there we are)) or it was valid and the CEO did not know the exemption granted by its display. According to your account they could not have known anything about the purpose of its use: it was there to be seen and recognised, not second-guessed.

IMO, make simple reps:
I am a *****
I have been issued with a **** by Devon County Council which I may use for the following(include an extract from their website).
On *** I was engaged in my Carer duties carrying ***** and parked at the location in order to ******.
I displayed my permit and marked the time of arrival as shown in your photos. I was therefore afforded an exemption from the prevailing waiting restrictions.
It therefore follows that the PCN was issued in error and should be cancelled.


As for your comment ' there are no sings at all dictating restrictions,' it would seem that both you and thE CEO need to bone up on traffic signs. You were parked on double yellow lines which do not need an associated upright plate, the markings alone convey the restriction: no waiting 24/7!

Re: PCN had pass in window
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Seems straightforward. No nearby parking spaces.

IMO, either your pass was no longer valid(odd design that there's no expiry date on its face, but there we are)) or it was valid and the CEO did not know the exemption granted by its display. According to your account they could not have known anything about the purpose of its use: it was there to be seen and recognised, not second-guessed.

IMO, make simple reps:
I am a *****
I have been issued with a **** by Devon County Council which I may use for the following(include an extract from their website).
On *** I was engaged in my Carer duties carrying ***** and parked at the location in order to ******.
I displayed my permit and marked the time of arrival as shown in your photos. I was therefore afforded an exemption from the prevailing waiting restrictions.
It therefore follows that the PCN was issued in error and should be cancelled.


As for your comment ' there are no sings at all dictating restrictions,' it would seem that both you and thE CEO need to bone up on traffic signs. You were parked on double yellow lines which do not need an associated upright plate, the markings alone convey the restriction: no waiting 24/7!

Thnak you everyone for all your help, I used very similar to this (if you need a copy of what I wrote to help others, I didnt save on pc I forgot as was doing it late, is there a way to still access the parking portal?)

This is their response

Dear Mr xxxxxxx

Thank you for your recent correspondence, regarding the above Penalty Charge Notice.
The information you have provided to us has been carefully considered and without prejudice to any future
Council decisions, the Council has on this occasion accepted your challenge and chosen to cancel this
Penalty Charge Notice. No further action by you is required.
Yours sincerely,

Parking Services

Re: PCN had pass in window
« Reply #23 on: »
Well done !
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