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Lewisham, 52 m Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain vehicles, Leahurst Road - westbound (ftla.uk)
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HI

I have received a PCN notice as above. The signage, 50m before the restriction are on the right hand side of the road and are not clear when driving westbound on the left.

I am not from the area, so was shocked when I received the penalty notice. I have searched other cases and the link below shows a video someone has taken of the area as GSV is not up to date. Can you help in any way? Have attached the PCN and picture of the 50 yard warning sign. As you can see from the images, there is no way of avoiding the penalty if you miss the blue warning sign on the wrong side of the road.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lewisham-52-m-failing-to-comply-with-a-prohibition-on-certain-vehicles-leahurst-/

Video below is courtesy of post above
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1le5R-6Z-GiOoVxDVRgs9k4hVk2p0Gx9f/view?usp=drive_link

my files
https://drive.google.com/file/d/150SqvKfMEfb1sJQrvU115Ar8mK-Zbg8O/view?usp=drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS6BXJT9CBp51BEQJyA0IGw6Jwa_ERNS/view?usp=drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/112r05w8LnX7gqnznvoV2CyTYGsXWlRao/view?usp=drive_link


Any help will be gratefully received - deadline for £65 fine is 11th September

Thanks
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Re: Lewisham, 52 m Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain vehicles, Leahurst Road - westbound (ftla.uk)
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I have a pretty solid draft representation for this and have a case on 3rd September.

You will need to edit the preamble:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lewisham-council-52-m-no-motor-vehicles-leahurst-road-west-bound/msg33628/#msg33628

Add this just before The Penalty Charge Notice in the last sentence above it: The general signage is criticised in 2240220841.

I am happy to represent you if it goes to the Tribunal.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2024, 08:17:49 pm by Hippocrates »
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Re: Lewisham, 52 m Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain vehicles, Leahurst Road - westbound (ftla.uk)
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I strongly suggest you take up Hippocrates offer and not cough-up to make it all go away. 

Adjudicators have excoriated the signage at this location, yet the council has done absolutely nothing , (or "sweet FA"), to improve it. Why ? Because it is a nice little earner for them, and the dark heart of the whole enforcement process is that councils can continue to thumb their noses at adjudicators till Kingdom Come, there being no process to force councils to respond to adjudicator decisions.
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Thank you, will lodge appeal now.
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Keep us posted when you get a reply and show us exactly what you wrote please.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2024, 04:46:13 pm by Hippocrates »
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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We won the other case today. I will post the decision tomorrow.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Lewisham, 52 m Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain vehicles, Leahurst Road - westbound (ftla.uk)
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@RACH1B Case No: 2240328826 sorry it is late. Any update?
« Last Edit: September 18, 2024, 11:52:59 am by Hippocrates »
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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