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PCN for 33e Contravention at carter street junction
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Hello All,

I have recieved a PCN for using a route to certain vehicles while i was looking for on the road parking, i stepped into the lane not relaizing it was only bus/taxi lane.

The PCN was issued on the 9 may 2024 and contravention date was 13-04-2024
When i calculate the days its coming to be 28 days on the 10 and 11 to be 29 days can i dispute the PCN based on that.

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Bob
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https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/6/enacted

(1)Subject to the provisions of this section, no penalty charge notice may be served under this Act after the expiry of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention or failure to comply occurred.

Contravention 13/04/2024
PCN Date 09/05/2024
Presumed Service 13/05/2024

32 days.

Unless it's a hired vehicle that's your appeal--- OOT.

Mike
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Thanks for the reply Mike, just to understand if the notice is issued on 9th it cannot be presumed to arrive or deemed on 10th Friday (working day) 11th saturday (working day) - 2 working days?

Also this is a personal vehicle with v5 on my name
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Yes, service takes place in two working days----doesnt include weekend--so posted on a Thursday brings you to Monday as the date of service.

Mike
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Of course don't be surprised if the council rejects, some council officers are too thick to understand the difference between the date of the notice and the date of service of the notice. If the representation is rejected you should pursue a costs order against the council.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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Re: PCN for 33e Contravention at carter street junction
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thanks all for sharing feedback, i have recieved the reply from the council ,
please find below

Could you help with the next process
  • how to appeal
  • Do i have to pay the complete sum if i loose in court
  • Can i recieve any points for this contravention as i have done the same mistake 2 more times and got a pcn.

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Quote from: bobquestions on June 17, 2024, 03:54:23 pm
thanks all for sharing feedback, i have recieved the reply from the council ,
please find below

Could you help with the next process
  • how to appeal
  • Do i have to pay the complete sum if i loose in court
  • Can i recieve any points for this contravention as i have done the same mistake 2 more times and got a pcn.

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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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https://imgur.com/a/AU6owSk PFA link to the reply
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Quote from: bobquestions on June 20, 2024, 12:08:12 pm
https://imgur.com/a/AU6owSk PFA link to the reply
The rejection is drivel because the PCN was not served on the day it was issued, you should obviously appeal as the council's case is hopeless.

I'll drop you a PM in case you'd like to be represented.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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Costs?
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

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