Author Topic: PCN: Birmingham City Council, code 01 parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours, Lionel Street  (Read 107 times)

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Got a PCN on windscreen around 13:40 for parking on the single yellow line outside the Ibis Hotel at 65 Lionel Street on Sunday, from Birmingham City Council - code 01 parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours:





Based on the map from the council website  https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/20109/parking/413/street_parking, Lionel street is in the Jewellery quarter zone. And from https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/20109/parking/413/street_parking/4, the hours of operation are Monday to Saturday - 8:00am to 6:00pm.





There is no clear sign on the street or at the road entrance. The driver checked the parking metre nearby which also shows the same hours and no charge on Sundays (see the photo). There are parking bays but were all full at the time. Based on the above info, I think it’s outside the hours of operation and should be free to park on the single yellow line on Sunday? What do you think?

How should I appeal? Thanks in advance.

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What you've given us are the charging hours for parking bays in the Jewellery Quarter. The single yellow lines may be restricted the whole week. You need to find the entrance sign to the zone where you entered the zone.

Birmingham is deceptive with its CPZs and really should be forced to change its website.

I can't recall if we've been successful in challenging a yellow line PCN on this but if you want to punt £35 you can have a go.

This CPZ is Mon-Sun 8am-6pm so also check your route for the entry sign or signs - they must be clear. 

It says 'Everyday' which may be wrong wording.


Thank you!

Hm, it is confusing/deceptive! The driver entered the zone the night before (when it was dark and the restrictions were not active) but can't remember the exact road. Car was parked in a bay on Branston Street.

On Sunday the driver looked for signs on Lionel Street but there seems none (only those "pay at machine" signs). The prominent "No Charge on Sunday" text on the parking metre creates a visual trap, so the driver deduced that there is no Sunday parking constraint!

Would like to try a representation. How should we write it? Thanks

I'll help you draft it.

You say you were in a bay but the contravention is for a yellow line? Did you move the car and why?

You've blanked the detals so we can't check the council pics.

The traffic signs manual warns about confusion:

14.1.14. As the times shown on the entry signs generally coincide with those applying to
parking places as well as to the yellow line waiting restrictions, drivers might take signs at
on‑street parking places as a reminder of the times when waiting is prohibited. This would be
confusing where parking places operate at different times (e.g. 24‑hour permit parking in a zone
that does not operate for 24 hours). In such cases, conventional signing might be preferable to
the introduction of a zone.

Thanks.

The car was parked in a bay on a different street (Branston street) overnight as the accommodation was there. On Sunday it was moved to Lionel Street on a single yellow line as the driver was visiting the city centre area.

Can access and share the council pictures later if needed.

The manual looks encouraging!

Please see main images from the CEO below:





Don't get your hopes up too high, the manual is guidance in this respect!

The driver is either correct in that the waiting restriction mirrors the parking bay times or they're not.

It's either correctly signed(remotely from the location) or it's not.

The driver can assert that they're correct and test the council, for free inside the 14-day period, and see what follows.

Are you the registered keeper with current DVLA details?

I think their website map is seriously misleading but I don't think we've got as far as the tribunal on this before.

The size of the zone is a factor.

Ans was the car moved within the zone?

Thanks. Yes, the driver moved within the zone. There was no sign on Lionel Street, so the driver had to check the council website, which is misleading.
And yes, I am the keeper.

How should I write the representation? Thanks

My thoughts on this:

I am challenging the PCN because you have not provided information that allows a diligent motorist to check the single yellow line restriction times. As such the contravention did not occur owing to failure to provide clear information compliant with guidance.

I drove into the zone the evening before and parked in a bay in Branston street to stay overnight at xxxxxx.

I then moved the car to Lionel Street the next day as I wanted to be closer to the city centre.

I checked the restrictions for the parking bay and the zone times on your website and both say the restriction applies 8am-6pm Monday-Saturday and not Sunday. Your website is explicit that these are the operational hours of the Jewellery Quarter controlled parking zone.   

There was no reason to suppose the yellow line was not similarly restricted and the only way I could have found out was finding an entry sign I could have passed in the dark the evening before.

You have a duty to avoid confusion among restrictions according to guidance in the Traffic Signs Manual, especially in a large controlled parking zone such as this. Here, the Sunday control, only for the yellow lines, is not stated on your controlled zone website page, and the manual is clear that confusion is likely where parking bays in these zones operate at different times to the CPZ entry as they are often the same. 

I look forward to cancellation of the PCN.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2026, 02:09:48 pm by stamfordman »

Thanks very much @stamfordman!

I'll also include links to the council website and the guidance and attach photos and screenshots if possible.