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Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start time
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What exactly do I put as my response to challenge it then? Seems to be conflicting answers. Thanks

Select "there was no contravention" as a ground if available on the website.

The alleged contravention did not occur as the video does not show any upright signage allegedly passed. Additionally, your Penalty Charge Notice is flawed which results in a procedural impropriety. Please provide the camera certification for the device used to record the offence. In light of this, please cancel the PCN.

Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start time
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I would also add that within 8 seconds is de minimus. Raising the 8 seconds in the appeal gives it a chance of being cancelled at this stage, avoiding the additional hassle if possible.

Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start time
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I would also add that within 8 seconds is de minimus. Raising the 8 seconds in the appeal gives it a chance of being cancelled at this stage, avoiding the additional hassle if possible.

That’s true as well, although Hillingdon recently have been rejecting completely valid appeals too just for intimidation.

Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start time
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The discount period ends in a few days, so you should submit Reps as soon as possible.

Re: Hillingdon Council Bus Lane - 8 Seconds over bus lane start time
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What exactly do I put as my response to challenge it then? Seems to be conflicting answers. Thanks

Select "there was no contravention" as a ground if available on the website.

The alleged contravention did not occur as the video does not show any upright signage allegedly passed. Additionally, your Penalty Charge Notice is flawed which results in a procedural impropriety. Please provide the camera certification for the device used to record the offence. In light of this, please cancel the PCN.

Procedural impropriety is NOT a ground and it is not strategic to remind them they must have a VCA certificate. Just crack on in this mode if you want to give them several goals.


https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1996/9/schedule/1/enacted

2(4) (a) are the grounds as previously stated.

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Website: this needs to be a screenshot AND try to select a ground under the box by entering the correct grounds. And screenshot that too. YOU NEED TO ENTER THE GROUNDS AS STATED ON THE PCN TO SHOW PREJUDICE NOT THAT THIS IS RELEVANT. If this were mine, I would try to enter both the correct grounds and those stated on the PCN.


Bus lane reasons
These are the common reasons relating to bus lanes which we receive queries for

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I am a Blue Badge holder and I was looking for disabled parking 
I did not realise I was in a bus lane 
I entered the bus lane to avoid congestion 
I stopped in the bus lane due to my medical condition 
I was avoiding an accident 
I was following a diversion / was directed into the bus lane 
I was following my sat-nav / I was lost / I'm not from the area 
I was in the bus lane, but it wasn't in operation at the time 
I was in the bus lane, but not for a substantial distance 
I was making way for an emergency vehicle 
I was picking up / dropping off a passenger at the train station 
I was picking up / dropping off a passenger 
I was taking advice from others 
I was unaware of the rules 
I was unaware that couriers were not permitted in the bus lane 
I was unfamiliar with the term "Bus Gate" 
My vehicle is a taxi 
My vehicle type is permitted to drive in bus lanes 
There was a road closure so the bus lane was not in operation 
There was nowhere to turn around and avoid the bus gate 
There were no buses in the bus lane at the time 
Other reasons
Non bus lane specific reasons that will appear in Bus Lane context

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A friend / family member recently passed away 
I didn't see / understand the signage 
I have already paid the PCN 
I was not at the location on the day 
I was not the driver 
I was not the owner / keeper of the vehicle 
I was unaware that a PCN had been issued as I've been away 
My vehicle had broken down 
My vehicle was cloned 
My vehicle was stolen 
The owner of the vehicle has passed away 
The vehicle was on hire to someone else 
None of the above
If none of the above reasons apply, and you wish to challenge your PCN, please select below:

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Any other reason
« Last Edit: August 28, 2026, 01:17:36 pm by Hippocrates »
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

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