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Hi There,
I got this ticket on the Friday 9th Feb 2024 at 16:50 when my wife was coming back from school after picking up my kid and his friend. It was requested by the parents to drop them to their place Canteley Gardens. my wife was driving the car and there road closures and there was no clear signs that it is is not possible to enter that street and no possibility to go any where else apart from turning back which at that time wasnt looking like a possibility.

Due to road closures from the way to home from school.

Penalty Charge Notice: AF98199184
Vehicle registration: BK08UUD
Contravention date: Friday, 09 Feb 2024 16:50
Contravention: Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle
Street: CAVENDISH AVENUE
Location:
Status: Penalty Charge Notice Posted

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there was no clear signs that it is is not possible to enter that street
Advance sign approaching from the north end:-
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JgTrrsHLXKy6kond8
Advance sign approaching from the south end:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Yu3ZygviyV7t8ts99
The actual restriction sign
https://maps.app.goo.gl/koBQ8ayn2KWhQ3nC9
I think the sign on the right is missing. There is a pole but no sign.
Here is the GSV view of 2020
https://maps.app.goo.gl/okAjwfS3KMpnp9Ji8

Frankly, I can't see an appeal to London Tribunals succeeding on inadequate signage. Please expand on the road closures. Closures should sign a diversion, this is a legal obligation.
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Well, I can't see any signs in the video (but I don't think that will get you very far):



The GSV image from 2020 shows perfectly clear signs, so this begs the question of why your wife drove past the signs, does she just not know what they mean?

If there were diversion signs that gives a ray of hope, but we would need specifics, not just a general assertion that there were diversions in the area.

In the meantime I'll get hold of the traffic order.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: PCN (Redbridge) 52m-Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain type of vehicles
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@pulkitbawa@gmail.com I've now got The Redbridge (Prescribed Routes) (No. 4) Traffic Order 2023 but as you paid without putting a holding representation in to protect your position (or dignifying us with any other response), I'm not going to look at it as it would be pointless.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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