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Re: 34j - Being in a bus lane - Romford Road E12 Newham
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The bus lane process is that, when it gets to the fifth set, they are required to turn up and answer questions on the camera evidence. Most do not. I haven't lost a bus lane case over the last three years and do not intend to do so now.
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Re: 34j - Being in a bus lane - Romford Road E12 Newham
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Finally received the Enforcement Notice in the post. Since receiving the rejection to my informal appeal, I see that another member also received a PCN for the same alleged offence and appealed and won. The inconsistency is frustrating to say the least! They had the same points that I put down in my appeal.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/newham-34j-being-in-a-bus-lane-(camera-enforcement)/

Should I send off the same for the formal rep?
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Re: 34j - Being in a bus lane - Romford Road E12 Newham
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So I submitted a formal rep with the below:

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I make the following challenge:

1. The alleged contravention did not occur as there was no warning signage of a bus lane at the junction. I rely upon:
   
Traffic Signs Manual, Chapter Three:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c78f895e5274a0ebfec719b/traffic-signs-manual-chapter-03.pdf

9.3.16.  The sign to diagram 962 is most likely to be used where a nearside bus lane is on the
same side of the major road as the side road; in this case the arrow will point to the left.

2. I also consider the white line to be faint and not fit for purpose.

3. I was forced to manoeuvre into bus lane as the vehicle in front braked suddenly as I was turning left onto the main road.

4. I put you to strict proof that the camera used is approved. If you cannot provide this, the evidence is inadmissible.

I also refer you to PCN PN75156509 which was cancelled.

In light of the above, please cancel the said PCN.

I received a rejection letter fairly quickly:




Frustrated by the inconsistency as the other PCN posted by another member on here was cancelled for the same alleged offence.
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Re: 34j - Being in a bus lane - Romford Road E12 Newham
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Ok. Tribunal time and I am happy to represent. I will PM you to get the ball rolling.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2024, 07:08:07 pm by Hippocrates »
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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