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John U.K.

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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2025, 03:16:53 pm »
1) Making reps online presumably has to be done against each PCN? Cross reference the responses or wait till Tribunal?


2) Save the references to Newham's own website guidance (see my Reply#12 on page 1 above) for the Tribunal?
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2025, 04:10:21 pm »
Quote from: John U.K. on February 07, 2025, 03:16:53 pm
1) Making reps online presumably has to be done against each PCN? Cross reference the responses or wait till Tribunal?


2) Save the references to Newham's own website guidance (see my Reply#12 on page 1 above) for the Tribunal?

I would make reps for each to be on the safe side.

There are parking bays and signs on the main part of Alynwick Road as per the CPZ (Newham calls them resident parking zones but they are CPZs).

What's happened is that the estate parts of the road were covered by permit parking areas and then they took these out leaving only patchy or no signage and now seem to think they are properly covered by the CPZ.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2025, 05:38:45 pm »
Looks OK to me.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2025, 07:22:24 pm »
Thank you all so much for your help, I will make the representation today and fingers crossed I will avoid court and waste time.
As per your advice will make separate representations.
All the best!



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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2025, 07:44:57 pm »
Quote from: Andu_Alex on February 07, 2025, 07:22:24 pm
Thank you all so much for your help, I will make the representation today and fingers crossed I will avoid court and waste time.
As per your advice will make separate representations.
All the best!
The tribunal, if we have to go that far, is NOT a court and certainly not something to be feared.

If you get rejections then just make sure to show them here before taking any action. If anyone here offers to represent you they may prefer to register the case(s) at tribunal themselves.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2025, 06:34:05 pm »
Hello everyone! Here I'm again with the response from the council.  As someone here suspected one PCN was cancelled and the other one not. The one with car impounded was not. I will attach their response.
Really grateful for any suggestions for next steps.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2025, 11:45:54 pm »
Those letters are a joke and deserving of a complaint. Hard to believe they are admitting to acting before putting up signage. They say they warned you about missing/vandalised signs (did they?) - fair enough but they've not put the signs up!

The accepted one makes no sense.

First you'll need to register a tribunal hearing for the outstanding PCN and tow.

Where are you parking now - they will put signs up and tow you again if you're not careful. Are they offering permits?
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2025, 07:24:31 am »
@stamfordman , at the moment I park at my mother in law,  there are no signs even today, and never where since I've moved there.
But anyway, I was able to make resident resident parking, I'm guessing that I will be fined again most certainly.

They didn't warn me, even the cancelled PCN I didn't find it on my car, just recived the letter in post. I was unaware of that. 
I live in a council estate next to a school and I suspect maybe children played a joke and removed it from the car. They have a gathering spot very near the parking lots.

Dare to ask, please, anyone aviable to help me further with the outstanding tow tribunal hearing thing?
Thank you.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2025, 12:43:03 pm »
I'll help you prepare the appeal but hopefully someone will offer to represent you.

Seems to me by accepting one the other falls anyway although what they mean by 'important information about the case cannot be retrieved' looks like nonsense. But the rejection of the tow PCN opens them up to costs in my view.



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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2025, 03:43:37 pm »
Quote from: stamfordman on February 21, 2025, 12:43:03 pm
what they mean by 'important information about the case cannot be retrieved' looks like nonsense.
We've seen it before, recently, for another case they couldn't possibly win.

It raises questions that indeed should be asked.

I've just seen it again, in a thread by 'never paying', first page on here.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2025, 05:22:57 pm by Neil B »
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2025, 03:52:37 pm »
Quote from: stamfordman on February 21, 2025, 12:43:03 pm
I'll help you prepare the appeal but hopefully someone will offer to represent you.
Current thinking is that you only need to register an appeal (do it online as it helps you keep track of it) Always ask for a peronal hearing, NOT a postal decision.
Just say 'I rely on my formal representations and any other matters that may arise'.
Then we just sit back and wait to see if they contest. If they do their case summary normally provides some extra ammunition.
If they contest and you don't feel prepared you can always ask for a postponement.

It's very unlikely I'll be available as I have imminent major surgery coming up.
You might message cp8759 or Mr Mustard to see if either have space to help.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #56 on: February 22, 2025, 02:39:51 pm »
Here I am. I have history with Newham and vandalised signs. Please email the complete Notice of Rejection letter ( nothing hidden, I don't need the form) to mrmustard@ zoho.com
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I help you pro bono (for free). I only ask that a donation is made to the North London Hospice if you can afford it and if you win. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless.

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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #57 on: February 22, 2025, 06:53:59 pm »
The signs aren't vandalised - they turned these parts of the estate into a CPZ from PPAs and failed to put in yellow lines, bays and bay signs in keeping with a CPZ. They've victimised the OP as though it is all in order.
Both rejections are tantamount to public malfeasance in my view. I'll be surprised if they dare to contest this.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2025, 09:24:40 pm »
@Neil B , thank you so much for all your help and best of luck with surgery.  Hope you will be fine really soon.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2025, 09:29:29 pm »
@stamfordman , nothing surprises me with newham council anymore. It is by far number one in given fines. :(
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