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No street parking signs, car impounded.
« on: February 06, 2025, 01:02:50 pm »
Hello everyone, 
I'm in need of help and advice from someone with more knowledge than myself please, if possible.
Short story so i don't waste your  time, moved on Alnwick Road  2 years ago, all good till recently when I've recived 2 PCN . For the first one i was not aware,  didn't see the ticket on car window ( honestly) just recived letter through post  and it was too late for discount fee.
Days before reciving  the letter for  PCN  I've parked again on the same street, this time I've  recived a PCN and my car was impounded as well.
On the street there are no trafic signs in regards of parking and even on council evidence there are none.
Do I have any grounds for an appeal as i was not aware of the restrictions?  Even today, still no sign whatsoever. 
I had to take my car out and pay the fees  because is my work car and my work tools where inside (no money to buy new ones) .
There are any regulations that I'm missing and the PCN are rightfully recived, English is not my first language and I'm  considering this probability as well.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/aXxVpx2i6SwLMcMu9?g_st=afm

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John U.K.

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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2025, 01:24:46 pm »
Quote from: Andu_Alex on February 06, 2025, 01:02:50 pm
Hello everyone, 
I'm in need of help and advice from someone with more knowledge than myself please, if possible.
Short story so i don't waste your  time, moved on Alnwick Road  2 years ago, all good till recently when I've recived 2 PCN . For the first one i was not aware,  didn't see the ticket on car window ( honestly) just recived letter through post  and it was too late for discount fee.
Please show us this letter (only redact yr name & address).


Days before reciving  the letter for  PCN  I've parked again on the same street, this time I've  recived a PCN and my car was impounded as well.
On the street there are no trafic signs in regards of parking and even on council evidence there are none.
Do I have any grounds for an appeal as i was not aware of the restrictions?  Even today, still no sign whatsoever. 
I had to take my car out and pay the fees  because is my work car and my work tools where inside (no money to buy new ones) .
There are any regulations that I'm missing and the PCN are rightfully recived, English is not my first language and I'm  considering this probability as well.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/aXxVpx2i6SwLMcMu9?g_st=afm

Thank you so much for reading my post.

Please post all the docs you received at the pound.

You seem to be in this zone
https://lbnewham.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=6c213298647e4283a537266c72c1d086

not entirely clear if this is a CPZ or RPZ

There will be signs like this at wherever you crossed the line into the zone.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/mQccZpFJMSArY7kq9

But there seem to be no single yellow line where you parked - are there any Council photos online?
« Last Edit: February 06, 2025, 01:38:02 pm by John U.K. »
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2025, 01:30:00 pm »
That is all I've recived at the time I've colected my car. No other correspondence or any other papers.
Zone is CMH , no road signs anywhere on the street, left -right , begging or end.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2025, 01:31:58 pm by Andu_Alex »
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2025, 01:40:12 pm »
Here is one sign on the A112 driving from the north.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FYojcFVvkx3kiz1s5
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2025, 01:43:11 pm »
It's in a controlled zone but Newham also uses permit parking areas where there is a sign at the entrance of a short dead end saying no parking beyond this point. Nothing in the pics.

Are you sure there isn't a sign at the entrance to the road? No parking signs at all in the road? No signed bays?


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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2025, 01:45:28 pm »
The sign is couple of streets away, could that be reasonable?
I've seen it, but was thinking that doesn't apply to my street as well becouse is too far, the street has another name.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2025, 01:48:38 pm »
Quote from: Andu_Alex on February 06, 2025, 01:45:28 pm
The sign is couple of streets away, could that be reasonable?
I've seen it, but was thinking that doesn't apply to my street as well becouse is too far, the street has another name.

What sign?
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2025, 01:50:57 pm »
@stamfordman
At this entrance to the estate there are two poles
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6CvSxSC79QGntk7P6

Perhaps the Council think they carry signs?
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2025, 01:51:01 pm »
100% pozitive that there is absolutely no sign on the street.
Just to be fair, i have recived in the past PCN gir other reasons and becouse it was clear that was my fault  I've  payed them.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2025, 01:55:16 pm »
The posts are no there anymore.
This picture  is taken yesterday exactly the same place.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2025, 01:57:03 pm »
Quote from: John U.K. on February 06, 2025, 01:50:57 pm
@stamfordman
At this entrance to the estate there are two poles
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6CvSxSC79QGntk7P6

Perhaps the Council think they carry signs?

Yes I noticed those - they've been there for a while with no signs. I think they're going to lose this if signs still not there.

There were as I suspected PPA signs:

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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2025, 02:01:40 pm »
There are no signs on the street since I've  moved there, that's way I'm confused. 
Obviously at the moment I'm not parking there anymore,  but is there anything that I can do in regards of this? Any appeal suggestion or anything please?
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2025, 02:15:46 pm »
Before you leave your car parked, please check the parking signs on the road in which you parked to ensure that there is no change in the status of the parking bay. (my underline)

That is from
https://www.newham.gov.uk/parking-permits/resident-parking-zones/1

where it says that the restricted hours for Custom House are 'Monday to Saturday, 8am - 6.30pm'

This site
https://www.newham.gov.uk/homepage/109/resident-parking-zones-rpz
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The controlled parking restrictions and times of operation will clearly be stated on signs within the zone. Please ensure you check these before you park. Please also make sure that you are not parked in a specific bay i.e. car club bay, doctors bay, disabled bay, or on single/double yellow lines.
(my bold and underline)

I may have missed something, but the signs at the border say CPZ, not RPZ.
There are, as the OP says, no signs where he parked and no relevant signs on the main length of Alnwick Road, thus he has complied with the necessary checks given on the website.

I feel that he has a strong case - what do others think?


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Any appeal suggestion or anything please?

You say you've lived threr for two years - anything though letterbox about change to RPZ?
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just recived letter through post  and it was too late for discount fee

IMPORTANT - if you have not paid this please show us the letter through the post (only redact yr name and address) - it should be called Notice to Owner (NtO)

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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2025, 02:21:33 pm »
I think the case here is very strong, and as the OP has already paid all there is to pay, having had the car towed away, he can take them all the way to London Tribunals with no risk whatsoever, and should get all the money back.
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Re: No street parking signs, car impounded.
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2025, 02:25:03 pm »
My guess is they abandoned the PPAs and wanted to make it all a CPZ, but to do that all kerbsides must be marked with yellow lines and signed parking bays. If there are no signed parking bays where the OP got a code 12 then I can't see a contravention occurred. Either that or it's a signless PPA.
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