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There have been a lot of allowed appeals at the tribunal here but I think Newham has improved the signage or layout.

I suggest you check the tribunal register for most recent decisions.

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/about/registers-appeals

Curious. They've changed the camera angle so that it avoids showing the signs on the nearside (left carriageway) pavement altogether. They are emphasising the offside (right carriageway) signs, probably in an effort to de-emphasise the left side signs which you cannot really see (assimilate) until the driver is committed to turning off the roundabout onto Royal Albert Way.

And there still is no time-plate, at least on the right side signs. The restriction is not 24 x 7. It's 11pm to 2am or something like that. The sign as it is implies 24x7.

Have a look for recent cases on here and cases you can find on the Tribunal register. Post up a draft of your representations for scrutiny.

Under what should you do so is rather confusing.

Hi All,

I've drafted the following regarding my appeal, please let me know what you think. This is based on going through the allowed appeals and adjudicator comments. Unfortunately I live quite far away from the location (about 3-4 hours round trip) so I'm relying on Google Maps for the preceeding signage and am just hoping that it hasn't changed since.

I am appealing PCN 771911293. I find the signage is inadequate in informing drivers that a prohibition on all motor vehicles entering Royal Albert Way is in effect.

Prior to the Royal Albert Way roundabout there are signs that display “Traffic camera enforcement at Royal Albert Way”. However, they do not contain any further information, such as what the restriction is or the hours of enforcement. I do not consider that these signs provide adequate information or warning to motorists regarding the restrictions in place. The signs could easily be construed as simply having speed cameras on Royal Albert Way.

There is no diagrammatic indication that the entry to one of the roundabout exits is effectively prohibited. By the time a vehicle exits the roundabout, it is too late and might be hazardous to take evasive action. The road upon which the restriction is located is a dual carriageway and therefore a vehicle that has exited the roundabout has no apparent way of avoiding the restriction in a safe manner.
From memory, I do not recall the sign on the left hand side of the dual carriageway being illuminated. The video footage shows that the right hand side illuminated sign is visible, which could also be mistaken as a prohibition on continuing along the roundabout and proceeding towards Dockside Road.

I would also like to point out section 1.3.2 of the Traffic Signs Manual, that states:
“In order to achieve safe and efficient operation of a highway network, it is essential that all signing provided is necessary, clear and unambiguous, and gives its message to road users at the appropriate time. The message must be quickly and easily understood at  the point it is needed; neither too soon that the information might be forgotten, nor too late for the safe performance of any necessary manoeuvre.”

I feel that the council has not provided adequacy or compliance of its signage and therefore the Penalty Charge Notice should be cancelled.

This is the problem... I'm relying on GSV as I'm not close enough to go have a look myself.

Whoa stop! Reset.

The cases we normally see all concern exiting from the Gallions Reach roundabout onto Royal Albert Way A1020. This roundabout is at the UEL campus end of Royal Albert Way.

However your postal PCN is for exiting the Royal Albert roundabout onto the Royal Albert Way in the other direction. This roundabout is in front of the Newham Council HQ at the Excel end of the road. I don't think we've had one of these before, might be new.

There are only 8 cases on the Tribunal Register for location Royal Albert Way E16 / Gallions Roundabout E16. They are all directions made as a result of referred Statutory Declarations, none are appeal outcomes. And there are 0 cases for Royal Albert Way E16 / Royal Albert Roundabout E16, the subject of this contravention.

That explains the revised camera angle as it's a different location. Looks like there are two of the same LED variable display signs. They normally show 40mph and switch to the flying motor cycle signs when the prohibition hours are active. There are no time plates showing the prohibited hours.

The signs are in the Sep & Oct 2024 GSV, see here.

So this is a different location? On the register is that what searching for Royal Albert Way returns as the register does have just this as a location.

Note in the video four drivers go through in procession so this doesn't look like an obvious restriction although people often follow blindly.

I made a bit of a hash of explaining it. So I've amended my original post.

Yes it is a different location. The OPs PCN is for the western end of Royal Albert Way. I don't think we've had one for this location on the forum before. The ones we're accustomed to are from the eastern end.

Searching the statutory register gives:
Royal Albert Way = 239 cases
Royal Albert Way E16 = 0 cases
Royal Albert Way E16 / Gallions Roundabout E16 = 8 cases & all are directions made
Royal Albert Way E16 / Royal Albert Roundabout E16 = 0 cases

The 3rd location is curious as this is the location given on the recent PCNs. Maybe the Tribunal truncates the location when the appeal is registered, so "Royal Albert Way E16 / Gallions Roundabout E16" appears as "Royal Albert Way". So there may well be some western end PCNs lurking in the 239.