Author Topic: Re: Newham council PCN code 12 (Read 1702 times)

Hashim · « **on:** September 18, 2025, 10:18:36 pm »

Good evening.

A friend received this as few days ago.

PCO said that he would give 5 mins as he needed to speak to the builder. When he came back out the PCO was writing out a PCN.

https://imgur.com/a/07ywMrW

Thanks
Hashim

Incandescent · « **Reply #1 on:** September 19, 2025, 12:32:07 am »

Seems to be a pretty mendacious CEO (Civil Enforcement Officer, not PCO) ! However, how long was your friend talking to the builder ?

So, the driver parked to speak with a builder at premises nearby. Normal practice when visiting premises in places like this where there is very little parking for non-residents, is to get a visitor voucher from the resident being visited. So please tell us more.

Hashim · « **Reply #2 on:** September 19, 2025, 10:21:08 am »

Yes thats correct. He actually spoke with the PCO before he went in who said he will give him 5 mins then went inside to speak with the builder literally within 5 mins the PCO was issuing the PCN. According to the time stamp on the PCN it was 5 mins.

stamfordman · « **Reply #3 on:** September 19, 2025, 10:27:38 am »

So the CEO said 5 minutes, gave 5 minutes and then issued the PCN? I expect Newham will say this is reasonable.

H C Andersen · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2025, 10:52:45 am »

When he came back out the PCO was writing out a PCN.

Or had written out and served the PCN?

The objective evidence, as opposed to driver recollections and time keeping( notoriously inaccurate) , is (only) 2 photos. This is unusual. These show the PCN served with the left arm and hand(holding keys) of a man approaching from the direction of the road and the traffic sign.

As far as I can see, neither is timed.

OP, there's more to this I suspect. Let's suppose your friend came back while the CEO was taking photos...this would suggest that some sort of conversation followed. Can we have everything pl.

Hashim · « **Reply #5 on:** September 21, 2025, 12:26:32 pm »

Friend parked his vehicle where he saw a CEO patrolling the area. He asked him that he needed to go to a property to speak to a builder. the CEO said he will give him 5 mins. The CEO stayed near the vehicle. When my friend came back out within the 5 Min the CEO had already written out the PCN and was taking photo of the signage and had the PCN in his hand. While my friend approached his car the CEO had already stuck the PCN on his windscreen and took the photo where you see my friends left hand with the keys.

We have till 23/9/25. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Hashim

Hashim · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2025, 02:59:53 pm »

Deadline is tonight 11:59pm

stamfordman · « **Reply #7 on:** September 22, 2025, 03:08:06 pm »

Why did he need to speak to a builder.

Where is this on Google Maps.

Hashim · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2025, 03:13:36 pm »

He owns a rental property there and was having some building work done.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/TBQw8hedFKxihmBx8

Thanks

stamfordman · « **Reply #9 on:** September 22, 2025, 03:24:40 pm »

Think this is the best you can do. I can't see any pay bays there but haven't checked rigorously.

Problem is it's Newham.

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I am challenging the PCN because your CEO led me to believe I had 5 minutes to speak to a builder who was carrying out work on a rental property I own (no xx xx Road).

I was certainly no longer than 5 minutes when I came out to find the CEO issuing the PCN and feel this is unfair and request the PCN be cancelled.

Please note that there are no pay bays nearby, and the bay is only restricted between 10am-12 noon and I was not there as a commuter, which I expect is the purpose of the short restriction time.

I trust you will check with your CEO and look forward to your early confirmation of cancellation.

Hashim · « **Reply #10 on:** September 22, 2025, 03:28:06 pm »

Thanks I'll try this....