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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Quote from: unpresidented16 on February 13, 2024, 08:36:03 pm
Update:

Thought id update since the charge certificate was last issued. So i done the TEC form and submitted it and a few days ago received a confirmation of charge certificate was cancelled. Now just waiting for newham’s next move but the charge still shows £204 on their website.
Newham are a dozy lot so just take your time.
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Just be patient.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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What reason did you tick on the Statutory Declaration form that you sent to the Traffic Enforcement Centre?
What's the date on the order you received from the TEC cancelling the Charge Cert?
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Quote from: Enceladus on February 14, 2024, 10:44:09 am
What reason did you tick on the Statutory Declaration form that you sent to the Traffic Enforcement Centre?
What's the date on the order you received from the TEC cancelling the Charge Cert?

I ticked notice of rejection not received. Instead I received a cost of living crisis helpsheet from them in December. The date of the order is 02/02/2024
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Quote from: unpresidented16 on February 14, 2024, 05:50:36 pm
Quote from: Enceladus on February 14, 2024, 10:44:09 am
What reason did you tick on the Statutory Declaration form that you sent to the Traffic Enforcement Centre?
What's the date on the order you received from the TEC cancelling the Charge Cert?

I ticked notice of rejection not received. Instead I received a cost of living crisis helpsheet from them in December. The date of the order is 02/02/2024
The case should be referred to the independent adjudicator for direction on how to proceed. So if you hear anything from the London tribunals please make sure you respond.

That said the current working practice is likely that you will receive a letter from Newham with a copy of the Notice of Rejection. You would then have an option to pay the charge (possibly at the discount rate) or to appeal to the adjudicator.

What's the PCN number and vehicle reg. You haven't yet told us these as per the instructions at the top of the forum.
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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As per Enceladus: 

(11)Where a declaration has been served under sub-paragraph (2)(b) or (c) above, the enforcing authority shall refer the case to the traffic adjudicator who may give such direction as he considers appropriate.

London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003
legislation.gov.uk


IF they send you another NOR or demands for payment, forget it!  I am more than happy to take this one on.

BUT:  we are rather short on documents.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2024, 05:06:43 pm by Hippocrates »
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Apologies for the delayed reply i lost access to my account and cannot reset the password so i will be using this account to keep up to date. I had a direct upload of the pcn with my original post but here is link to the pcn on dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/g4miotmg5r7rp16y3w0hx/50u-pcn-newham.pdf?rlkey=t1z4n9p6eiff0dl19jwsuswtg&dl=0

My appeal was merely based in descretion to buy some time whilst CP had gotten the traffic order for said location. I still have a copy of my appeal somewhere.

Edit:

Pcn number: PN73969095
reg: AF06YVS
« Last Edit: February 29, 2024, 10:35:15 pm by WhoLetTheScamsOut »
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Your PCN is still showing as £204 on the council website. Newham would have been informed of the outcome of your statutory declaration electronically after 16:00pm on the 2nd Feb 2024. So really the website should have updated by now since the Charge Certificate was ordered cancelled.

Have you had any correspondence from the London Tribunals?

Have you changed address at any time since the alleged contravention? Is the name & address 100% current and correct on the V5c for the car?
« Last Edit: March 03, 2024, 04:23:03 pm by Enceladus »
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Quote from: Enceladus on March 03, 2024, 02:03:57 pm
Your PCN is still showing as £204 on the council website. Newham would have been informed of the outcome of your statutory declaration electronically after 16:00pm on the 2nd Feb 2024. So really the website should have updated by now since the Charge Certificate was ordered cancelled.

Have you had any correspondence from the London Tribunals?

Have you changed address at any time since the alleged contravention? Is the name & address 100% current and correct on the V5c for the car?



Received No correspondence from tribunals, the charge notice being cancelled was the last thing i received regarding this pcn.

Nope i have not changed address and yes the V5C is correct and uptodate with current address.

The longer they take the better for me right?
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Take a screenshot of the Newham evidence page, the page which shows £204 due. Keep it safe, to show the Adjudicator that as of today the 3rd March, so over a month since the court order from the TEC, apparently Newham still haven't actioned it. In fact get a screenshot whenever you check going forward.

However the delay could be with the London Tribunals. Where the Statutory Declaration is for no Notice of Rejection received then the matter should be referred to the Adjudicator at London Tribunals for direction on how to proceed.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2024, 07:21:45 pm by Enceladus »
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Good shout, will do that
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Quote from: WhoLetTheScamsOut on March 03, 2024, 07:40:53 pm
Good shout, will do that
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Update:

On 4th April 2024 I checked the pcn status and it has been reverted back to £65 discount. On the 1st April 2024 it was still showing £204 so sometime between the 2nd and 4th it was reverted back. I have screenshots of this just incase it’s needed. A full week has gone by, the discount option is still there but no correspondence has been received yet. Will update further if anything comes through. Thanks again
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Update:

13/05 today I checked the pcn on newham website and it’s showing £130 yet I still haven’t received any paperwork regarding the pcn from either the TEC or newham after the initial TEC letter regarding cc cancelled.
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Re: Newham - 50u prohibited turn (no U-turn) - New Barn St E13/Ravenscroft Rd E13
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Newham should refer the matter to the Tribunal as advised. Meanwhile, don't bother watching the kettle boil.  ;)
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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