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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2023, 08:52:24 pm »
I cannot access the video or images.  I need the VRM:  PM sent.  You need to draft in your own words about the signage first.

I will do the rest and the FOIR.  The latter submitted.
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There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2023, 04:36:30 pm »
I do not know wha happened on that moment I was there, but now observing the footage I discovered a very narrow passage maybe under the limits. Why make the road so arrow doesn't make any sense.

And maybe too many signs saying the same but in a different way. One positive "blue left turn sign" plus one prohibitive "not right turn sign". Too much information to confuse drivers I guess

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2023, 07:58:24 pm »
Dear Bromley

Ref:  PCN            VRM

I make these formal representations against the Enforcement Notice as follows:

1. I never received a PCN so that I was unable to submit an informal challenge.

2. I was travelling in  the right hand lane and was presented with two signs, a blue one to require me to turn left, and a red one prohibiting me to turn right.  Both these signs confused me particularly as they were both respectively placed on the opposite sides of the road to where one would expect them to be.

3. The alleged incursion is so de minimis as to be quite trivial under the circumstances.

4.  The video footage does not show any previous warning signage such as the sign to diagram 958.  Indeed, I did not even see the sign to diagram 959 as I was concentrating on the signage at the end of the  right hand side of the road and the no turn right sign.

5. I further bring a collateral challenge on the basis that the PCN is unenforceable because the taken without consent ground clearly fetters to theft by its very wording that a crime report be provided. Therefore, this inaccurate reflection of the statutory ground does not take into account that a relative, or friend, may have taken the vehicle without the owner's permission so that the owner would not necessarily, if at all, report the matter to the Police in such circumstances.

In view of the above please cancel the PCN and EN.  Should you not agree to do so, I am quite prepared to take the matter to adjudication.


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« Last Edit: December 31, 2023, 08:08:46 pm by Hippocrates »
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2024, 10:43:12 pm »
hi ,

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2024, 10:44:34 pm »
Please kindly advise

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2024, 01:34:15 am »
Is that it?  Just two pages of the NOR?  Total failure to consider unless there is another page which there must be. I will PM you as I say it is Tribunal time. If you agree.
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There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2024, 11:01:44 am »
sorry page 2 missing as I sent 3rd twice


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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2024, 11:07:04 am »
and the last one


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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2024, 01:50:59 pm »
OK,  I have looked at the video again and reread everything. Failure to consider plus this is is so de minimis in any case. I would take this all the way and will pay half if I lose this for you! You can trust me on this because I have a reputation on both sites.  PM sent with my details.

« Last Edit: February 23, 2024, 05:20:41 pm by Hippocrates »
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2024, 10:31:55 am »
Game on.
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2024, 01:51:28 pm »
No witness statement re camera.  TMO not signed. 100% of all advanced signage are undated or open to conjecture. Last but not least, if they do not attend as it shows at present, should be straightforward. Tuesday is D-day. Also, when you log in to their portal, the video shows a car attempting to do a James Bond stunt.  ;D
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2024, 02:16:26 pm »
Won.  No show.  No WS. Final submissions:

1.   Most of the photographic evidence provided by the council is of little or no evidential value. I mean: 99.9%.
2.   There is no evidence as far as I can see which satisfies Para. 7(2) as provided at Schedule 1 of the London Local Authorities Act 1996 (as amended).
3.   The video provided to the Tribunal has been altered so as to provide moving images of the vehicle which do not tally with the video which both the appellant and I have viewed when accessing the case on the councilís website.  The latter source clearly shows the vehicle going backwards and forwards.
 

« Last Edit: April 02, 2024, 02:19:39 pm by Hippocrates »
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2024, 03:53:18 pm »
Maestro, well done! Congratulations
Thank you sooooo much

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2024, 05:35:31 pm »
Encantado. By the way, for others, after the decision was made, I had a discussion with the adjudicator re the "20 metre rule". I said it was in the ether, and he said it was myth.
There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply in view of some adjudicators' lack of knowing what they ought to know through no fault of their own.

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Re: MICHELL WAY (Bus Lane) BROMLEY Code34J
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2024, 10:01:52 am »
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I am not a lawyer.

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